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July

09-05-2006 23:47:04




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Hi, I know the subject on this discussion board is case, but I was wondering, in your view, what makes case better then other makes? thank you!
July




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Glenn FitzGerald

09-06-2006 13:57:40




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 Re: Case vs others in reply to July, 09-05-2006 23:47:04  
Pre-80's models were economical to operate(and purchase), simple, tough, easy to work on, overbuilt....I do not have experience with the newer ones.

Glenn F.



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Goldie

09-06-2006 13:52:27




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 Re: Case vs others in reply to July, 09-05-2006 23:47:04  
Im not sure what made it beter, but my Dad has farmed with every color of tractor ther is and his 630 Case was by far his favorite.



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C. Amick

09-06-2006 09:16:45




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 Re: Case vs others in reply to July, 09-05-2006 23:47:04  
I grew up using Farmalls,IH's and Cases. It always seemed to me that the Cases were made a little heavier duty in both engine and drive train. I read stories occassionally about 100 Series Cases with over 18,000 hours on them without a major engine overhaul.



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buckeye al

09-06-2006 15:12:34




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 Re: Case vs others in reply to C. Amick, 09-06-2006 09:16:45  
I visited the Firestone Ag tire test facility near Akron Ohio about 8 or 10 years ago. They had systems set up so a tractor could be turned loose & it would run in circles 24/7 'till either the Murphy Gauges or their test timers shut them down. All fenced in so no idiots could get in the way easily. As I recall they had a pair maybe a version or two newer but sized about like a 1070 and a 1370, I'm not sure of the model numbers. Anyway.... they bragged both had nearly 20,000 hours on them and yet they had required little more than routine maintenance. The technicians agreed they were simple, tough and the most trustworthy least troublesome tractors on the grounds.

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Triplerange

09-06-2006 07:35:08




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 Re: Case vs others in reply to July, 09-05-2006 23:47:04  
I"ve always liked their engines. Very good low end torque. Also very economical. My dad"s 105 hp 970 will go three times as long on fuel as my grandfathers 80hp AC 185. And since they"re not painted green they cost less to buy too!



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Walt Davies

09-06-2006 22:51:18




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 Re: Case vs others in reply to Triplerange, 09-06-2006 07:35:08  
I have to say you are not talking about my LA when you say good Fuel mileage. I burn 4 to 5 gallons per hour when working it. I can run all day on that much in my 30 hp Kubota just can't pull the big plow or disc giggle. No kidding the LA was noted for bad fuel consumtion that's why they went to the diesel in the 500. Other than that its a great wheatland tractor can pull 4 or 5 bottom plows all day long with little or no trouble. Funny I had to use my 2 bottom to plow up a garden area for next spring, this ground out here can get real hard in the summer. I have pulled my 4 botton with it with little trouble when the ground isn't like hard pan.
I think that you buy a tractor what you are going to use it for my cockshutt 35 Hi-rowcrop tractor is much better suited for row crops than the case early tractors. Later on they did buils some hi crop models to compete.
Stock Case tractors don't do as good as some others at the pulls because they are so damn heavy and have compete in a class where they up against much bigger engines. I wish they would use a formula to match weight and HP to get a more fair competition.

Walt

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John Saeli

09-06-2006 05:26:25




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 Re: Case vs others in reply to July, 09-05-2006 23:47:04  
Hey July: Good question!! Their low RPM, high torque engines that were overbuilt. Unsurpassed hydraulic systems, Case offered a 20 GPM pump on their farm tractors in 1950. Their Draft system would sense load changes 600 times a minute. Their plows were famous for their easy draft. Custom operators favored the Case Balers & Combines. Case Combines were always ahead of the competition for their economy, ease of operation, & the quality of grain in the tank. Although not true today, at 1 time it was not unheard of to get parts from the dealer for a 50 year old machine.

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dwag

09-06-2006 19:25:49




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 Re: Case vs others in reply to John Saeli, 09-06-2006 05:26:25  
Which Case tractor had the 20 GPM pump?



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John Saeli

09-07-2006 05:54:11




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 Re: Case vs others in reply to dwag, 09-06-2006 19:25:49  
They were offered as an option on the "S" Series & "D" Series for sure, not sure of the other chain drives, but I bet they did.



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Dave Beiter

09-06-2006 18:15:07




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 Re: Case vs others in reply to John Saeli, 09-06-2006 05:26:25  
John, If the plows were famous for their draft, why do the Eagle hitch plows pull so darn hard... Am I missing the set up?



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John Saeli

09-07-2006 05:48:34




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 Re: Case vs others in reply to Dave Beiter, 09-06-2006 18:15:07  
Adjustment is everything. My Dad used to scold me (yell) & tell me I didn't know the 1st thing of setting up a plow. That's because I'd hook up & go. He told of many times of swapping tractors with other brand plows & loosing a gear. I brought home a John deere plow, 5 -18's, 20 years ago. I was proud of myself because they were in nice shape & I got a good deal, or so I thought. Dad hollered "Of all the plows to ever come out of a foundry, you brought home the hardest pulling!! Where's your brains??!!" He was right, they pulled hard.

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Rich in NY

09-07-2006 18:02:21




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 Re: Case vs others in reply to John Saeli, 09-07-2006 05:48:34  
I have a set of 5-18 JD plows (1450) and my 2755 deere pulls them nicely., but I need to keep the loader on the tractor to keep the front end down. My brothers 1070 "black knight" romps with them.



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Dave Beiter

09-07-2006 08:44:54




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 Re: Case vs others in reply to John Saeli, 09-07-2006 05:48:34  
Ok, then, is there a trick?? Both my dad and I have used Case Eagle Hitch plows for a while and we think we have them figured out, but they still pull hard.. Is there a trick or is it the design? When a strong 830 snorts pulling 3-14's in Ohio clay something is wrong



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John Saeli

09-07-2006 16:33:37




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 Re: Case vs others in reply to Dave Beiter, 09-07-2006 08:44:54  
Hey Dave: Our DC & 630 would both play with a set of 3 16's E-H Plows. The later ones built about '59. We have miserable clay here too. The 1175 had all she wanted with 5 18's 2500 Deere. 870 played with 4-16's Case Hyd. Reset plows.



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Dave Beiter

09-07-2006 18:32:34




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 Re: Case vs others in reply to John Saeli, 09-07-2006 16:33:37  
John, I think you need to come to Ohio and teach us Ohio boys how to set up those EH plows, when an 830 works hard with 3-14's and my 530 works hard with 2-14's something is wrong, the worst thing is getting pulled out of the dead furry, and having to ride the left brake to keep it straight.



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John Saeli

09-08-2006 05:21:43




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 Re: Case vs others in reply to Dave Beiter, 09-07-2006 18:32:34  
Hey Dave: Wish I could come to Ohio. You need to get Ed Axthelm over there. Have him tell you about setting up plows. He boggles my mind. The paint has to come off the frog under the landside!!



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DC-4490

09-07-2006 09:19:24




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 Re: Case vs others in reply to Dave Beiter, 09-07-2006 08:44:54  

Same problem with 700 on old 3-14s(top hitch trip out) and newer3-14s trip bottom.The tire size and Eagle hitch arms created different angle of draft than the DC and the 300 those plows came off of according to Case rep out of Columbus,Ohio in 1963.The 700 pulled new Case 3-16 pull type in 4th easy!



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Walt Davies

09-06-2006 08:40:10




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 Re: Case vs others in reply to John Saeli, 09-06-2006 05:26:25  
You would be suprised as to how many parts you can still get for the old cases tractors. I got new brakes disks for my 43 SI and a new float for the Carb. Our local dealer keeps the old books on hand to help locate parts for us.
Walt



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Marty g.

09-06-2006 04:58:20




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 Re: Case vs others in reply to July, 09-05-2006 23:47:04  
Wich era of Case? It`s a matter of perspective. There is always a better tool for different types of work...



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