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411b to 600

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Todd Dombrock

08-20-2006 17:17:22




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Wondering if anyone can give me info on putting sleeves and pistons out of a 600 in my 400. The current engine displacment is 148, and the 600 is a 164 or 165. The bore is 1/4" larger, with the same stroke, but I'm wondering about the machining on the block; if everything will fit. Anyone ever done this? I know that sleeves out of a 159 will fit with machining. Just curious what information people having on this subject. Any help would be appreciated.

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C. Amick

08-21-2006 10:06:40




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 Re: 411b to 600 in reply to Todd Dombrock, 08-20-2006 17:17:22  
Before you spend a small fortune in machine shop charges, have you considered trying to find a Case 350 Series roundnose tractor?



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Todd Dombrock

08-21-2006 11:39:23




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 Re: 411b to 600 in reply to C. Amick, 08-21-2006 10:06:40  
I already have the 400 Case. I was just curious what people have tried and had any luck with. This tractor can pull in the 4000lb class, and with a little work be competitive. I was lucky to find a tractor with a good case o matic in it, which aren"t bad for pulling when they are in good shape. Sleeves and pistons from a 159 will fit with a little work. Just wanted to go a little bigger. Any info helps!

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Todd Dombrock

08-20-2006 17:23:27




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 Re: 411b to 600 in reply to Todd Dombrock, 08-20-2006 17:17:22  
Just answered my own question. 600"s are dry sleeved. Anyone with an idea on increasing the displacement past 159ci? The pulling is tough around here and I need all the help I can get!



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Roger (Mi)

08-20-2006 19:23:46




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 Re: 188 gas is wet sleeve in reply to Todd Dombrock, 08-20-2006 17:23:27  
The 188 Case gas for the 630 (52 horsepower) is a wet sleeve. A little machine work, and the sleeves and pistons should work. A little head work and carb modification, you should be pushing 60 HP.



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Todd Dombrock

08-20-2006 19:48:06




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 Re: 188 gas is wet sleeve in reply to Roger (Mi), 08-20-2006 19:23:46  
Any idea what to use for a headgasket on something like that? I believe the bore on a 188 is 3 15/16" where the 148 is 3 1/4. The sleeves would have to be siamesed, at least on the top flange to fit. I'm not sure if there's room to fit em in. Anyone know the outside dimension of a 188 sleeve?



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Roger (Mi)

08-21-2006 05:25:29




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 Re: 188 gas is 3 13/16 bore in reply to Todd Dombrock, 08-20-2006 19:48:06  
There are two different flange widths. The early flange is 4.475" and the late flange is 4.537". There is a place in Texas that custom makes any kind of head gasket. Maybe some knows the name and number.



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