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Help identify a plow

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MF Poor

01-01-2008 16:15:05




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I got this rather vague picture from a friend. He's trying to identify the plow. I THINK it's a snap coupler type AC plow modified to use on a 3-point hitch. Any ideas?

TIA

Bill




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CheeseHead Fred

01-03-2008 21:39:57




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 Re: Help identify a plow in reply to MF Poor, 01-01-2008 16:15:05  
It is definitely an Allis snap coupler or pin mount plow as stated. Another problem besides the incorrect wheel spacing is the lack of coulters. On these plows the front coulter mounted to the bar that connected below the tractor with the snap coupler "eye" or pin mount. All of that is missing in the photos, and the second coulter has also been removed. The clamp is still on the frame in the second photo.

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ohio

01-02-2008 12:49:54




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 Re: Help identify a plow in reply to MF Poor, 01-01-2008 16:15:05  
You might have a hard time getting the geometry correct.



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Dick Lemmon

01-02-2008 13:36:38




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 Re: Help identify a plow in reply to ohio, 01-02-2008 12:49:54  
Probly right, Looking at the picture it would seem that the tractor tires are set out to wide to run in the furrow. I drove by a field that looked like it was plowed with a set up like that. That field might get the gaps filled in if it was disked three or four times then worked corner ways ten or twelve times. I did say (might) didn't I. What a mess. Must have been 30 acres. Seems like in that amount of acres who ever was plowing would have learned what was wrong some where along the way. Just proves that because you can buy a tractor and plow doesn't mean that you can plow. You can root around and make a mess but it does take some skill to plow so you can fit the ground ready for planting. I never thought it was that big of a deal until I see what some of the yuppies do to a field. Funny thing is I would bet after rooting up 30 or so acres the fellow is ready to teach someone else how to plow. He has experience!

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Tramway Guy

01-02-2008 05:29:23




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 Re: Help identify a plow in reply to MF Poor, 01-01-2008 16:15:05  
Looks like a WD '50' series plow. '52' for 2-bottom, '53' for 3-bottom.
Might have been either snap-coupler or the earlier pin-hitch version.
Would have been available in 14" or 16" moldboards.



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MF Poor

01-01-2008 16:32:13




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 Re: Help identify a plow in reply to MF Poor, 01-01-2008 16:15:05  
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Another picture. Shows top link position on tractor. As well, you get a better idea of the plows attitude. (tail high)



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JMS/.MN

01-01-2008 16:19:42




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 Re: Help identify a plow in reply to MF Poor, 01-01-2008 16:15:05  
The upright standards look like the one Dad bought new in "56 with the WD45. I have a couple like that, one older, with the pin hitch. This is converted.



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MF Poor

01-01-2008 16:25:34




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 Re: Help identify a plow in reply to JMS/.MN, 01-01-2008 16:19:42  
Notice how the tail end is in the sky. He's wondering why it won't plow ;)

Top link is too short as well as in the lowest position possible on the tractor end. It needs to be raised and extended. Also the adjuster crank on the plow needs extending. With the front share on the dirt, rear bottom is 10" off the ground.



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JMS/.MN

01-02-2008 08:21:37




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 Re: Help identify a plow in reply to MF Poor, 01-01-2008 16:25:34  
With the Snap-Coupler system, the crank is used to set the depth. Frame is made to adjust the plow for level. He needs a longer top link. Even then, it won"t work as well as it was originally designed.



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Dick L

01-01-2008 16:43:09




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 Re: Help identify a plow in reply to MF Poor, 01-01-2008 16:25:34  
Drive the left side of the tractor up on 6 or 8 inch blocks. Then set/modify/adjust the plow hook up points to where the plow sits flat and level on the ground behind the tractor. You might have to make a different bracket to hook the top link to the plow. Might be able to buy a longer top link.



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Kemper

01-02-2008 06:37:46




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 Re: Help identify a plow in reply to Dick L, 01-01-2008 16:43:09  
Do exactly as Dick says,and you should be able to get it to work,looks like it is all in the top link being way too short.get it leveled with the ground.



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