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kendak

12-23-2007 00:48:51




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What is the proper way to set the timing on a WD-45 ??..I have a factory service manual & it's not very clear,,,,thanks ...Kent




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Dick L

12-23-2007 14:23:51




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 Would You Like in reply to kendak, 12-23-2007 00:48:51  
If you would like to be able to time it so that some with a timing light would not to make an adjustment and declare it as good as he could get it.
Take all the spark plugs out to allow it to turn with a hand crank with the least effort. Place your thumb over the number one plug hole. When you feel the air pressure stop. Inch the crank checking for the flywheel TDC mark in the inspection hole. When the TDC mark is centered, set the distributor to point to plug wire terminal number one. (Front Plug) put a spark plug on the wire and ground it to the block in a position to watch for a spark. With power on inch the crank until this plug fires. the instant it fires stop and check for TDC in the inspection hole. Adjust the distributor until when sparking the TDC is centered. This tractor has a mechanical advance and when the engine is set this way and you place a timing light on when the tractor is running the light will show the FIRE mark centered in the inspection hole.
This way even the novice can time exact with or without an ear.
Works on any engine with a mechanical advance.
This method is like checking a math problem.

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magg

12-23-2007 18:26:24




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 Re: Would You Like in reply to Dick L, 12-23-2007 14:23:51  
Maybe I should start over I don't think I was very clear...tractor is running I'm trying to find this inspection hole you are referring to...there are NO holes of any kind in bellhousing...the only place that I can even see the flywheel is inspection plates on the front of flywheel[under tractor] & the plate under starter on top...I would like to put a light on it..thanks ...Marvin



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Texas Denny

12-23-2007 06:46:01




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 Re: timing in reply to kendak, 12-23-2007 00:48:51  
A lot of folks simply time it by ear. Loosen the adjustment and rotate the distributor/magneto for maximum rpm. Either leave it in this position or turn it in the direction of retard slightly (usually clockwise).



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John T

12-23-2007 11:54:57




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 Re: timing in reply to Texas Denny, 12-23-2007 06:46:01  
Denny, as you well know Im a better hand on Deere then AC butttttttttttt heres my own experience as far as the fine old art of "timing by ear"

I find that if a novice run times one by ear they more then likely end up having it tooooooo fast (like your note to slightly retard once done). Its just too tempting to keep advancing cuz they speed up n smooth out so niceeeeee (for a while at least). Kind of like what you mentioned I advancE them to get that smooth RPM increase which I also think is too fast, so then I retard them JUST UNTIL THEY START TO LABOR N SOUND A TAD LOUDER. If they are real quiet thats just too fast Ima thinkin.

ALSO an experienced guy can hear how they start cuz if too fast they tend to bump up against the starter more then they should which can be tough on starter drives.

I also time them some by just setting the start timing n let the advance run where it likes provided within reason. If the advance mechanism is okay n the points are set right, setting up the start timing ougth to get the run timing in the ballpark.

To do that I first rotate the distributor retarted,,,,,,get the engine up to TDC on the No 1 cylinders compression power stroke ,,,,,,,,have the No 1 plug removed but wire attached n side grounded,,,,,,have points gaped correct,,,,,,,turn on ignition,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,slowlyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy manually rotate/advance the distributor n STOP when that plug fires........

Any agreement or any response lol

Merry Christmas Yall

John T (Proud owner of an AC D 15 despite my JD buddies makin fun of me lol)

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Texas Denny

12-23-2007 12:41:43




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 Re: timing in reply to John T, 12-23-2007 11:54:57  
I agree totally!



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John T

12-23-2007 13:17:37




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 Re: timing in reply to Texas Denny, 12-23-2007 12:41:43  
Wellllllll gee we dont even get to arm wrestle lol Great minds think alike ya think ??????????

I will prob arrive in Mission around Jan 4 or so. I will e mail ya then to see if we can hook up at any tractor shows. My old Hoosier buddy Jim says youre okay, thats good enough for me

John T jmn50@msn.com



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Texas Denny

12-23-2007 15:41:08




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 Re: timing in reply to John T, 12-23-2007 13:17:37  
Glen Rose is February 9, 10.



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Texas Denny

12-23-2007 15:38:27




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 Re: timing in reply to John T, 12-23-2007 13:17:37  
Yep! Doing fine. Will check on that show right now.



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