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deutz 9190

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kirk in ks,

12-17-2007 11:34:30




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how is parts availability on the deutz allis;s models, i drove on e once ands liked it alot a 9190 and it wqas a studd to be sure liked it better than a massey V8 even, liked the controls alot better and the interior was alot more quality than the massey too
kirk,




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Jack a

12-18-2007 03:48:49




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 Re: deutz 9190 in reply to kirk in ks,, 12-17-2007 11:34:30  
Basically a White with a Duetz engine. Good, strong tractors. Parts for the engine might be high.



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Jack a

12-18-2007 03:45:13




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 Re: deutz 9190 in reply to kirk in ks,, 12-17-2007 11:34:30  
Basically a White with a Duetz engine. Good, strong tractors. Parts for the engine might be high.



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cadet trooper

12-17-2007 16:03:11




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 Re: deutz 9190 in reply to kirk in ks,, 12-17-2007 11:34:30  
That time period was a mixed up time it was a Deutz front end with a White rearend (I think) It was a time where Deutz was buying everything up and trying to consolidate everything. I'm guessing you can still get parts for it from AGCO you can always check with your local dealer.



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856 puller

12-18-2007 05:12:08




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 Re: deutz 9190 in reply to cadet trooper, 12-17-2007 16:03:11  
mixed up is right. they wouldnt build a big mfwd tractor and when they did thats what we got. i was at the dealership at the time and have worked on them since. do your self a favor and look for something different



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kirk inks,

12-18-2007 06:41:21




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 Re: deutz 9190 in reply to 856 puller, 12-18-2007 05:12:08  
Hi 856,
i just saw your post andn i think your right on the 9190's,
i drove one once and liked it alot nice cab and controls
but i couldnt getr the shifter to go into the gear i wantewd it in and sat there for about 10 mins trying to get in sync?
seem;s like it was either stiff , or the sliders in under the console were not lineing up and for the life of me wouldnt go into gear esxcept with me clutching and declutching it about 10 times,
sheesh what a joke , buti stilll liked the engine wow what a noise, and what power, mann o man, what a stud, I think id still like to have one weather it shifts good or not ,
thats trivial you can get that stuf fixed without much of a problem,

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kirk in ks,

12-18-2007 05:47:48




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 Re: deutz 9190 in reply to 856 puller, 12-18-2007 05:12:08  
yea i know as they were kinda botched up in alot of ways and alot of the design didnt make any sense
ill staay with a massey 2000 series and be happy with that as you can work on them and thew allis wll i dont know when you get into the mech FWD ivew seen alot of them amnd i dont in the long rn trust them too much to not go out and have pbms,



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856 puller

12-18-2007 10:10:18




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 Re: deutz 9190 in reply to kirk in ks,, 12-18-2007 05:47:48  
the shifting linkage cam be adjusted there is a hole you put a pin in to align. the mfwd isnt mutch problem but the shifter can be a pain. internal hyd. lines powershift and rear end stuff pluss little things were the main problems. the deutz is a good engine but not everyone knows how to work on them and they are costly to repair.



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kirk im ks,

12-18-2007 10:33:59




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 Re: deutz 9190 in reply to 856 puller, 12-18-2007 10:10:18  
ohh ok good as i liked that engine alot mannn wht a sweet noise and alot better sounding that practicallly anything ive heard outthere
really gutsy sounding
wow,
this dealer wanted about 19,000 for this 89 mode 9190, and i drove it as i said and i like it alor except for that shifting thing it wwas really incredible like the orange paint and the cab too like the guages too nice guage bionnacle too alnong woth the side console simple but funtionall to,
kirk

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cadet trooper

12-18-2007 15:30:44




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 Re: deutz 9190 in reply to kirk im ks,, 12-18-2007 10:33:59  
Geez Kirk I always thought that V-8 Perkins in those 2000 Massey's had a Bad A** sound but I don't know if I could put up with that for a long time in those all glass cabs for long hours but I have a Harley with nice pipes and I wear ear protection if I'm going on long trips that doesn't make any sense does it? Over the years I've gotten into the high pitched blower sound like some of the new semis make or pulling tractors do kinda like we're screwing the oil companies by using more air than fuel. CT

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856 puller

12-18-2007 12:00:41




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 Re: deutz 9190 in reply to kirk im ks,, 12-18-2007 10:33:59  
well one mans noise is another mans music i guess..im not saying its not a useable tractor but there is a reason why its 19k and a deere or ih the same age is 40k good luck



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