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Cman

11-19-2007 15:40:49

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1949 AC B
The shift lever spins around and around in the socket. Could there be a pin broken? Don't think this is normal. Also don't see a pin in the AC-11 manual. Have the side plate off but don't see anything unusual. Any help would be appreciated

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ohio

11-20-2007 14:58:04

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Re: Shift Lever in reply to Cman, 11-19-2007 15:40:49

That's normal, but any engagement problems are related to worn gates in the shifter.

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Randy Zandt(MI)

11-20-2007 14:06:50

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Re: Shift Lever in reply to Cman, 11-19-2007 15:40:49

Thanks for the info Bob

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Texas Denny

11-20-2007 06:50:43

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Re: Shift Lever in reply to Cman, 11-19-2007 15:40:49

I've been trying to remember this since you posted. I haven't been in one of these for nearly 10 years. My best recollection is that the upper ball on the gear shift has a slot on one side. This slot slides over a pin that is in the ball socket of the transmission case. I cannot recall if this pin is a press fit or is spring loaded - I would expect a clearance fit since it would be difficult to make it a press fit or spring loaded. I'm not even sure if this correct. As you observe, the Allis manuals are no help. The IT manual shows a groove in the left side of the upper shift ball. But no other detail. Sorry I can't help.

Try a very careful inspection of the socket for the gear shift. You should be able to find a depression for a pin in the socket if there is one. Fortunately, the rotating lever won't affect your ability to use the tractor.

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Randy Zandt(MI)

11-19-2007 17:39:28

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Re: Shift Lever in reply to Cman, 11-19-2007 15:40:49

I have a 1939 B and my shifter does the same thing as of this weekend and it stuck in gear. my shifter had 4 c-clips that had to be removed to remove the shift lever.also have removed the fork assembly and about a quart of water(just got the tractor)Ihave yet to find what parts are correct for retaining the shifter.Also removed the head and found small cracks between the cylinders in the block but no coolent in the cylinders.Guess I need help to.

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chalmersbob

11-19-2007 19:15:25

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Re: Shift Lever in reply to Randy Zandt(MI), 11-19-2007 17:39:28

cracks between the cylinders are normal, at the top. the head gasket seals them. Bob

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Joe M(GA)

11-19-2007 16:10:36

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Re: Shift Lever in reply to Cman, 11-19-2007 15:40:49

Flip over a couple of pages to Page 61, look at the G picture at the top(figure AC97). They share the same main case, except for the G shifter being bent over

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Cman

11-19-2007 17:04:50

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Re: Shift Lever in reply to Joe M(GA), 11-19-2007 16:10:36

Thanks for the quick reply.

The picture for the G in no way looks like mine, I can find no evidence of the lever guide pins. I have three recessed places in my shift lever, big enough for the little finger to set in, but not very deep, these are in the ball that the lever pivots on. There is no evidence of broken pieces in the transmission case. Someone could have removed the pins at some time.
The only thing I can find is the snap ring and the retainer. Thanks

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