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Mouse trouble in clutch-land (WD-45)

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11-08-2007 17:17:34

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I have a miserable problem with my clutch and could use some help. In short, my clutch plate doesn't seem to be releasing properly and I can only use the hand-clutch to disengage the clutch (I know I shouldn't do this).

Long story short - a mouse family made a home in the clutch housing area and I can only assume that this buggered up the clutch. When I depress the clutch foot pedal all the way, nothing seems to happen and the tractor stays in gear. I can only release the clutch by using the hand-lever which as best I can tell, utilizes a different mechanism.

I took off the inspection plate under the tractor and cleaned out the mouse nest (and carcases) and have done my best to clean any debris from within the clutch mechanisms. In doing so, I notice a "C" clip of sorts that fell out in the debris (about an inch in diameter and broken in half). On the advice of other forum members, I also sprayed copious amounts of brake-cleaner into the clutch area to try to loosen it up to no avail.

My question is what does this "C" clip do and where did it belong (is it a critical piece) or, what else might be wrong? When I had my wife depress the clutch foot pedal, I can see the springs disengage a plate, but having never seen a working clutch, I don't know if this is proper.

I will gladly offer up any quantity of malted beverages to someone who can resolve the issue successfully ;-))

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11-12-2007 21:20:12

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 Re: Mouse trouble in clutch-land (WD-45) in reply to jblyth, 11-08-2007 17:17:34  
My WD has a flip over lever to lock out the clutch pedal in the depressed position.
With the pedal down, try repeatedly engaging the hand clutch crisply, being carefull not to rear up the tractor. Use no more engine speed than needed.
Sounds like with the urine from the mice, the friction disk has rusted fast to the preassureplate and/or flywheel face.
Would be good to grease the trow out bearing after the mice.
I don't remember a snap ring that size in that part of the tractor.

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David Maddux

11-09-2007 03:59:33

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 Re: Mouse trouble in clutch-land (WD-45) in reply to jblyth, 11-08-2007 17:17:34  
I have broke them loose by backing up to a large tree. Put back tire up to a large tree. Push in the foot clutch and use your hand clutch to ease up to the tree. But yes, soak it down first.

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11-08-2007 18:04:08

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 Re: Mouse trouble in clutch-land (WD-45) in reply to jblyth, 11-08-2007 17:17:34  
i agree with WD, its hard to believe the clutch is "broke". it might be stuck with oil on the plates. when your wife presses the pedal down and you see the srpings compress and the plate move, you should see clearances between the steel plate on each side, and the friction plate in the center. you might be able to poke a screw driver up there and wiggle, when she pushes the pedal.. on the smaller tractors, i have removed the starter and tied down the clutch pedall, then soaked everything with dishwashing soap and hot water in a weed sprayer... like WD says, if you get it going, push dwon on the clutch and hold it down and drive. up and dwon hills, or loaded to a plow, etc. it should eventually pop loose.

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11-08-2007 17:56:33

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 Re: Mouse trouble in clutch-land (WD-45) in reply to jblyth, 11-08-2007 17:17:34  
I don't know what the clip is from. The clutch not releaseing though may be a clutch disc stuck to the flywheel and or pressure plate. Get the tractor going in third or fourth and with the foot clutch pedal depressed and maybe with the brakes on open and close the throttle rapidly enough to jerk the driveline and see if it doesn't release. Be carefull doing this

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