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Dismount rear tires

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Dave 39B

10-24-2007 18:37:50




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Has any of you guys taken your rear tires off the rims yourself,if so how hard is it.Is it something you would do again or have it done.I'm asking because the closest place to get it done is about an hour away and I'll have to make two trips,the second trip after I fix and paint the rims.They are off a 39B so they aren't too big.
Thanks Dave




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Dave H

10-27-2007 20:06:26




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 Re: Dismount rear tires in reply to Dave 39B, 10-24-2007 18:37:50  
I am lazy and not into al that jacking and pounding. I put a 2X8 ramp up on the itre with the end close to the rim. Then I idle the powerstroke pick up on the ramp and they will pop loose. I have done ancient hard as a rock tires that way. On the ancient tires, if they are trash and will be discarded, I would recommend a saws all to get them off the rims after breaking. That will save bent rims for sure, but will take all the swet and nasty talk out of the job.

have fun

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bjr

10-27-2007 06:00:34




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 Use tire and tube mounting compound in reply to Dave 39B, 10-24-2007 18:37:50  
I use Murphy"s tire mounting compound, it"s kinda a soap I think. I bought all my tire tools from Northern tool. The spoons were crap, they bent the first time I used them. Harbor freight sells tire iron also. Gemplers has good stuff but real pricey. The slide hammer that I got from NT looks okay. I haven"t used it yet. I want one of those bead cheeta things but haven"t sprung for one yet. Do your own tire work if you have the time, saves on the gas runnin" all over trying to get some one to fix the tire. bjr

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BushogPapa

10-26-2007 19:56:37




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 Re: Dismount rear tires in reply to Dave 39B, 10-24-2007 18:37:50  
I use lots of baby powder, or TALC..which ever I get my hands on...

Talc sure slicks the rubber and is easy to clean up..! I rub it all over and inside the tire and all over both sides of the tube before I put it in the tire...

Ron..



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David Maddux

10-25-2007 04:26:55




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 Re: Dismount rear tires in reply to Dave 39B, 10-24-2007 18:37:50  
I decided to spend the money for a bead-cheata, tool. You just clamp it on the rim and then ratchet the tire from the bead. It is the only way to go! I leave the rim on the tractor. Ratchet both sides off the bead and then take the tire spoons and work it off.



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jeffalex2

10-25-2007 03:13:06




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 Re: Dismount rear tires in reply to Dave 39B, 10-24-2007 18:37:50  
It depends on how long the tires have been on the rims. If you have old, loaded tires that have been leaking, it's gonna be tough. If they are fairly new tires that you are gonna reuse, it's not that bad. When I replaced them on by Allis B, I let the air/fuild out of them and drove it around until they came off...didn't hurt anything. On my Super M, it took two of us and we used the jack/drawbar method described below along with a digging bar to break the bead. Once the bead is broken off the rim, it's not too bad...just a wrestling match.

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old

10-24-2007 21:53:35




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 Re: Dismount rear tires in reply to Dave 39B, 10-24-2007 18:37:50  
I do it all the time. Big thing is knowing how and having the right tools to do so. I happen to have both since I did work on tires for a living at one time and I also have all the right tools to do the job. Smaller tires like on your tractor aren't all that bad but when you get to the bigger ones they can be a bear. The correct tools will cost you around $100 give or take a little but once you have them they are next to impossible to destory. You need a tire hammer/bead braker, and 2 tire spoons and soap lots or dish soap

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Texas Denny

10-24-2007 21:10:37




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 Re: Dismount rear tires in reply to Dave 39B, 10-24-2007 18:37:50  
Dave, I don't like to use the methods discussed here as the rims are easily damaged during bead braking. I place the tire and rim under the drawbar of a large tractor. I place a high lift jack on the tire with the base as close to the rim as possible. I put the lift under the drawbar and jack the tire off the rim. It is easy and fast and I've never damaged a rim or tire doing it this way. Once the bead is broken on both sides, my method is like the others.

I have done way too many tires breaking the bead with tire irons. I had to find a better, faster, easier, safer, surer method to break the bead.

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CraiginMO

10-24-2007 20:38:32




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 Re: Dismount rear tires in reply to Dave 39B, 10-24-2007 18:37:50  
Go here. Step by step.



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gene

10-24-2007 20:12:58




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 Re: Dismount rear tires in reply to Dave 39B, 10-24-2007 18:37:50  
Rears are not hard to dismount and remount as long as there is no fluid in the tire.

I use a flat pry bar and a big hammer to break the bead. I use cut off car jack handles for tire spoons.



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Dave 39B

10-24-2007 19:28:10




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 Re: Dismount rear tires in reply to Dave 39B, 10-24-2007 18:37:50  
Thanks bjb'I have the slide hammer fer the bead and it sounds as if you didn't mind doin it so I guess I'll at least try one and see how it goes.Thanks fer the info.
Dave



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1755

10-26-2007 15:23:26




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 Re: Dismount rear tires in reply to Dave 39B, 10-24-2007 19:28:10  
I have taken several ATV tires on and off and tractors I have took 2 tires off and put 1 back and helped put one back on the one I helped with was like a 13 by 38 something like that pryed it back on with a cro bar ended up pinching the tube on that one and they had to start over th other ones I had to put a new rim on the CA 12 something 24s took it of the tractor layed it down and took the front end loader and pushed down on the ruber tire next to the rim came loos flip did the other side had to get a nother for power ajust parts 14.9 28 and took it apart the same then we have several tire spoons and I took the 2 that were singel ended and put a cheeter pipe on there and pryed it apart you cant go to fast or you will tare the bead let the air out first and mine did not have fluid in them when you put it back in make shur that the valve stem is on the right side of the rim to keep it from geting kinked and be carful not to pinch the tube I would recomend a new tube unless you were planing on geting new tires or something in a few years if they look craked or dry roted at all

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bjb in Ne

10-24-2007 18:58:02




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 Re: Dismount rear tires in reply to Dave 39B, 10-24-2007 18:37:50  
I didnt find it too hard but then again I am only 22 years old. Make sure you have enough spoons and a good bead breaker. Having an extra set of hands doesnt hurt either



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bjb in NE

10-24-2007 18:59:47




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 Re: Dismount rear tires in reply to bjb in Ne, 10-24-2007 18:58:02  
PS I had them but the tires back on so not to scratch the paint. Make sure you clean off any of their commercial lubricant because it can take the paint off the rims.



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