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wd-2 bottom plow - won't go very deep.

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WD Doug

10-03-2007 06:03:49




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Have 2 bottom well scoured plow that wont go but 4-5 inches deep. I have it adjusted to point down as muc as possible. is there something in the hydralic settings that would keep it up? how would i adjust it? I still have several inches left on the rams.
need help!




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WD-Doug

10-04-2007 07:16:13




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 Re: wd-2 bottom plow - won't go very deep. in reply to WD Doug, 10-03-2007 06:03:49  
It appears as though the hydraulics are not allowing it to go deeper. how do i set the hydraulics to go alow it to go a bit deeper



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Jack a

10-04-2007 05:15:59




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 Re: wd-2 bottom plow - won't go very deep. in reply to WD Doug, 10-03-2007 06:03:49  
When the plow is hooked up and setting on level ground (not in the field plowing) the plow share should NOT be pointed down but instead it should be slightly up. How do you have it set? I had this problem when I first plowed with my D17. I thought that I should set the plow so it points down into the ground but the thing wouldn't go in very good. I read the operators manual and from then on I've had no problems with plowing whether it be with my D17, WD, or 45. Again your shares should be in good condition too.

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JMS/MN

10-03-2007 19:44:17




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 Re: wd-2 bottom plow - won't go very deep. in reply to WD Doug, 10-03-2007 06:03:49  
Most likely your plowshares are too worn to pull into the ground. Traction Booster is not an issue if you leave the hydraulic lift/lower lever at the bottom of the quadrant, given that the hydraulic system is set right. It does not kick in until you raise the lever somewhat.



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Butch(OH)

10-03-2007 14:10:00




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 Re: wd-2 bottom plow - won't go very deep. in reply to WD Doug, 10-03-2007 06:03:49  
What the others said is right on. I would only add that the easy way to make sure the draft control (Traction Booster) is not holding the plow out of the ground is to lock out the draft link with the thumb screw provided. Also if you have one of the older plows with fitted or "black smith" type shares they are likely worn and lost the suck they need to pull the plow in the ground. If the ground is dry none of the older plows will go in the ground where large machinery or traffic has it packed like a road.

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J.C.in AZ.

10-03-2007 13:06:39




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 Re: wd-2 bottom plow - won't go very deep. in reply to WD Doug, 10-03-2007 06:03:49  
If you are trying to plow any thing but Black Loam, such as Timber Clay or any type of dry Clay Loam etc. the Plow is doing all it will do. The system is a one way Hydraulic System and the Plow needs'Suck" to enter the soil. If it just Skims along as you describe,with Plow Mold Board Sole pointed down and it won't enter the soil to get depth then it is at it's extreme and only down force will make it Plow as deep as you seem to want it to. The Traction Booster works on the lift principle to transfer weight to the rear Tractor Wheels so they will bite and pull. If you can not get the Plow to enter the Soil then no weight can be transfered to the Wheels and shallow scraping[not really plowing] is all it will accomplish. You may have a Hard pan that has not been broken for a long time,if so a Subsoiler would probably be a better tool to use than trying to break the soil with an AC Mounted Plow. The old Crop Rotation which included a good Alfalfa or Clover Crop year ahead of breaking the ground for Corn helped solve the Hard Pan problem but the practice of Corn on Corn had made much of the Soil in the Corn Belt hard to manage hence the wide spread use of "Chisel Plows" to prepare Crop Ground, and Soil Conservation is an added benefit of a "Chisel Plows" use.My 3ct's.

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Jack a

10-03-2007 06:55:26




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 Re: wd-2 bottom plow - won't go very deep. in reply to WD Doug, 10-03-2007 06:03:49  
First make sure your traction booster linkage (located near the spring in front of the hitch) is adjusted per manual. There should be a bolt that you adjust with a certain clearance between the bolt and the stop. Adjust the quadrant lever also according to manual where the link rod runs from the quadrant shaft at the rear of the fuel tank. Make sure the pump is set for traction booster (instructions should be on the decal on battery box or in the manual). The plow should be adjusted so that it sets level side to side when in the furrow and also level front to back. You have to make a round first if just striking out. After a couple rounds check to see if it still is level. Also are the points good on the shares?

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mark

10-05-2007 17:18:57




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 Re: wd-2 bottom plow - won't go very deep. in reply to Jack a, 10-03-2007 06:55:26  
Where you are, the soil may be way different than where I am. But here in eastern KY this time of year, the clay ground is harder than the flints of Hell. You just can't get a plow to penetrate right now. After the fall rains begin and the moisture content is restored, and provided you have good plow points (shares), your plow will go right in and do a fine job. Hard dry ground might be most of your problem right now.

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