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Bad day in allis land deere to the rescue

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havvey

09-01-2007 17:43:38




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So many years ago in a wet spring uncle burried his prized WD45 in a wet spot wih a disc harrow on it. Tried getting it out with the allis c but she broke traksion and went down. Neighbor run Deere's (always rivaly between them) uncle had no use for deere. But him and neighbor were in same high school class. They brought the old A (about 1940) in pulled the c out then the wd45. All was left was the disc. Neighbor said now you want me to pull the disc out?? Uncle laughed and said sure well pull you out when you sink. Backed the old A in and walked the disc out with out even spinning a wheel. Neighbor went home with big gin, uncle went to the house steaming with words like putt-putt, cornpopper, pipe organ, junk deere etc!!! It has been talked about for many years!! To the day uncle died he was not to fond of deer's!!

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Jack a

09-04-2007 04:08:33




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 Re: Bad day in allis land deere to the rescue in reply to havvey, 09-01-2007 17:43:38  
I'll tell you one. This came from my now late uncle. Back in about 1953 or 54 his neighbor was about to purchase a 60 John Deere when the local Allis dealer talked him in to letting him come out with on new WD45 the day the 60 was delivered. There was going to be a plow demo between the 60 and 45 that day as arranged by the two competing dealers and the farmer. They were to use the farmers pull-type 3x16 I believe Oliver plow and a stop watch to time each round. First the 60 took a round and was timed then the 45 (weighted up proper) took a round with the same plow and beat the 60 by over a minute. Then the 60 went again after the Deere mechanic did some adjusting to the carb. The the 45 took it's turn again but after going half way across the field the mechanic driving the 45 stopped. My uncle thought "Oh no" he has trouble but actually he had stopped to shift from 2nd gear to 3rd gear and man my uncle said he just buried that 60. The two tractors spent the afternoon duking it out with the little 45 coming out on top every time over the big 60. The farmer was a loyal Deere man and he got a little hot and accused the Allis dealer of bringing out a hopped up tractor. He then bought the 60 instead but his own brother who was also a loyal Deere man (but not quite as loyal) later bought an Allis.
There were plenty of eye witnesses to the event from the area.

Second example took place actually about ten years or so earlier involving the same John Deere farmer and my Grandpa. They each were plowing in adjacent fields my Grandpa with his WC and the neighbor (actually his hired hand) with his John Deere A with much the same results. The neighbor stopped his hired man and the yelling could be heard from a distance when he asked the hired man "why don't you open the d@mn thing up?" to which the hired man replied "he!! I have it wide open". Plenty of witnesses there then too cause this all took place next to the local country store.

I have several more accounts some of which involve me and tractor pulling with my bone stock D17 against the likes of an occasional 880, 460, R, 70 and 720 among others.

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El Toro

09-02-2007 17:53:33




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 Re: Bad day in allis land deere to the rescue in reply to havvey, 09-01-2007 17:43:38  
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Here's an Allis that was caught in a flood in 1995. Hal



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Eldon (WA)

09-02-2007 19:56:49




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 Re: Bad day in allis land deere to the rescue in reply to El Toro, 09-02-2007 17:53:33  
Looks like it is still runnin!



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El Toro

09-03-2007 04:02:52




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 Re: Bad day in allis land deere to the rescue in reply to Eldon (WA), 09-02-2007 19:56:49  
The man from Ohio that owned that AC 7040 said the tractor was ruined. I thought it could be salvaged. Hal



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crate78

09-02-2007 11:18:48




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 Re: Bad day in allis land deere to the rescue in reply to havvey, 09-01-2007 17:43:38  
When I was a kid and selp-propelled combines first were coming on the scene, a neighbor got one stuck in a mud hole. He rounded up four other neighbors with tractos to try to pull the combine out.

As it was a fairly large mud hole, one neighbor with an M Farmall backed up to the combine and someone hooked him on with a chain. Three other assorted tractors hooked onto the front of the M. The plan was for them all to dig out at the same time and pull the combine out. They all opened their throttles and did.

The fellow on the M had forgotten to shift out of reverse from backing up to the combine. They then had a combine and four tractors stuck. They finally rounded up a fifth tractor and got the whole works pulled out.

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Bill(Wis)

09-02-2007 06:28:10




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 Re: Bad day in allis land deere to the rescue in reply to havvey, 09-01-2007 17:43:38  
The wet spot might have dried a bit in the time this all took but the most likely reason for it was the larger diameter wheels and tires on the Deere. Larger footprint. Heavier tractor? Maybe. WD and WD-45 came from the factory with calcium chloride filled (75%) tires. WD and 45 offered two 150 lb wheel weights each side as an option. Plus weight of uncle versus weight of neighbor? 38 inch wheels will make a big difference over 28 inch wheels in soft conditions including sand.

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eldon (WA)

09-01-2007 20:17:19




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 Re: Bad day in allis land deere to the rescue in reply to havvey, 09-01-2007 17:43:38  
I think there are some facts to this story that are missing....a heavy old Deere would have sunk if there was still a wet spot there...where the WD45 would have stayed on top - BTDT!



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Will Herring

09-01-2007 22:23:16




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 Re: Bad day in allis land deere to the rescue in reply to eldon (WA), 09-01-2007 20:17:19  
That 45 should've crawled right on out of there. third party image



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