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D17 LP refueling

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mhorton

08-12-2007 07:56:42




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I'm looking for a way to refuel my D17 LP (1958) w/o trailering it into town.

I understand the hazards of LP and don't want to do anything until i know exactly what i'm doing.

I've done my best to research this over the web, and i've come to the following conclusion;

I can purchase a 100# (24 gallon capacity) LP cylinder with a POL valve, get a hose with a POL male fitting on one end, and an appropriate fitting on the other end of the hose for attaching to the tractor tank "vapor filler" valve...this would allow me to use the high pressure to low pressure fill technique.

i understand this technique is slow but effective.

so, the question is, what fitting do i need to attach the hose to the tractor vapor filler valve?

and since i've never done this before, please tell me if i'm way off here.

i can provide pictures of the tractor tank and fill valves if it would help.

thanks in advance,
M

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Kent of SWMO

08-12-2007 16:56:03




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 Re: D17 LP refueling in reply to mhorton, 08-12-2007 07:56:42  
I have a 1967 LP fueled Gleaner C-II that I have used for 10 years. I do my own fueling. You can not fuel from a 100 LB LP tank. They are set up to output vapor. You need to fuel with liquid LP and the ONLY way to get liquid from a 100 LB tank is to turn it upside down. I am guessing you DO NOT use LP to heat you home. If you do and have a 250 gallon or larger storage tank, most of these tanks have a liquid tap from which you can fuel your tractor. You need to talk to an LP supplier who know LP Motor Fuel system. Most only deal with heating fuel. You can buy a fitting, needed hose and valving to withdraw liquid from a home supply tank. I lucked out and found a pump which I power with a 5 HP B&S engine so I fuel in the field. With a hose only fueling is VERY SLOW. Sometimes you can leave the tanks connected over night and as the tanks cool the storage tank having the most liquid in it will coll slower than the one on the tractor and this will move fuel to the tractor because the pressure in the storage tank will be higher than the one on the tractor. If you have further question send me a private message and I will send you my phone number.

Kent

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mhorton

08-12-2007 12:13:09




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 Re: D17 LP refueling in reply to CUB fan, 08-12-2007 07:56:42  

Jerry Coulter said: (quoted from post at 19:51:06 08/12/07) You could acquire the fitting for the vapor return valve for the tractor tank....


thanks for the help,

since i don't know exactly what fitting is required for the vapor return valve, should i just remove the valve itself from the tractor tank and take it to a LP supply shop and let them fit it?

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Jerry Coulter

08-12-2007 15:02:18




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 Re: D17 LP refueling in reply to mhorton, 08-12-2007 12:13:09  
If not too far to the dealer, go talk to them first. It is the smaller of 2 fittings with external threads on your tractor tank. The same size is even used on anhydrous ammonia tanks, except they are steel whereas brass is used around propane. There should be a cap screwed onto it, just take the cap along with you. They should make up the hose and fittings for you to ensure it is done right. And they should give you a procedure and safety lecture. Always connect to the cylinder first, disconnect from the cylinder last. When you connect and loose the fitting from the tractor, some propane will blow out while you screw the fitting. Always use gloves.

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Jerry Coulter

08-12-2007 11:51:06




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 Re: D17 LP refueling in reply to mhorton, 08-12-2007 07:56:42  
You could acquire the fitting for the vapor return valve for the tractor tank and a P.O.L. fitting with L.H. thread to fit the cylinder. Connect them by a fairly short high pressure hose. You can use plain black iron fittings to connect the assembly. Hang the cylinder upside down above the tractor and drain the liquid downward while the displaced vapor bubbles trickle upward through the same hose. Can't let the hose droop or an air lock will develop. This process would take hours. Make certain the tractor doesn't overfill with liquid because it would be impossible to disconnect if liquid remained in the line. Keep the fill to below 90 percent. Any propane dealer can supply the fittings you need unless he is totally uncomfortable with your plan and concerned about his liability. You can upgrade from this system all the way to maintaining a nurse tank with a pump.

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El Toro

08-12-2007 08:39:18




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 Re: D17 LP refueling in reply to mhorton, 08-12-2007 07:56:42  
Is there an LP delivery truck in your area that could fill your fuel tank? That would be the safest. Hal



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mhorton

08-12-2007 09:07:09




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 Re: D17 LP refueling in reply to El Toro, 08-12-2007 08:39:18  
"125 gallon minimum for delivery."...long story short, when i told them i just needed 18 gallons or so they didn't even want to talk to me...pretty much got the "good luck" reply.



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El Toro

08-12-2007 11:34:00




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 Re: D17 LP refueling in reply to mhorton, 08-12-2007 09:07:09  
Times have sure changed. When I was in the Army
back in the 1950's and lived in a mobile home there was truck that came through the mobile park and filled those 20 lb gas cylinders for about $2.00. Hal



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