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loose nut

08-06-2007 04:33:56




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B with keyed on steering wheel. Has a soft insert in end of shaft. Book shows a large nut that is supposed to screw on but there is only 1/16" of the soft insert sticking out, certainly no threads to be seen. Thinking about installing wheel with key then tapping end for bolt. Any thoughts?

Also, the upper half of my steering tube has been replaced with thick wall pipe, end bored to accept the steering wheel hub. The shaft just under the wheel is a smaller diameter and is very pitted. Am I correct that this is where the original bushing ran, and that I ought to put a bushing of some flavor up there to help support the wheel? Thinking PVC with a copper pipe liner to run on the shaft, after I polish it of course.
Thanks!

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steve(ill)

08-06-2007 15:57:08




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 Re: B steering wheel nut in reply to loose nut, 08-06-2007 04:33:56  
i would bet someone removed the nut and it twisted the threaded portion off the top of the shaft. the steering wheel is on a taper with a key. just thread the inside of the tube and screw a 1/4 of 5/16 bolt in with a big washer on top to hold the wheel down---- thre was a bushing donw a few inches inside the tube. you can turn one from wood or brass or aluminum on the lathe. push it down another inch if needed to get to a better spot on the shaft. give it .030 inch clearanc, not a snug fit. pat it in a few inches, then use a center punch on teh outside to stake the tube and dimple it into the bushing so it cant slide. put a spoon full og heavly oil or grease on the top just befor you set the wheel.

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loose nut

08-06-2007 11:36:32




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 Re: B steering wheel nut in reply to loose nut, 08-06-2007 04:33:56  
Yes, the acorn nut is what I am talking about. There is nothing to thread it on, the shaft ends and there is some soft insert, but whatever threaded portion that was sticking up isn't there, so nothing to thread on. Ws there originally some type of threaded stud on the end for the acorn nut to thread on? As for the other, it's run for a long time with none, but it's starting to oval the tubing bore. I'm OK with the tubing but gonna need to do something to keep the wheel from rubbing any further. So I'll just make one up - maybe PVC or some oak, heve to see what I got laying around.

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Dick L

08-06-2007 12:32:13




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 Re: B steering wheel nut in reply to loose nut, 08-06-2007 11:36:32  
I would guess that someone tried to use a puller on the steering wheel to get it off some time or other and flared the end of the shaft. Then ground it off to remove the steering wheel. You might be able to run a tap down the center and put in a stud if you want to use the acorn nut without replacing the shaft. A cap screw would work if you wanted to go that way. No reason the shaft has to be hollow.

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Dick L

08-06-2007 08:04:34




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 Re: B steering wheel nut in reply to loose nut, 08-06-2007 04:33:56  
I dont know what book you have but the only nut at the top is the acorn nut in the center of the steering wheel. Sounds like someone has made a haphazard (custom repair) of some kind. You can buy a spendy bushing of make one out of hardwood. Either one will do the job. You can get a new thin wall tube at a muffler shop to make a like new repair.



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Loose nut

08-07-2007 03:24:53




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 Re: B steering wheel nut in reply to Dick L, 08-06-2007 08:04:34  
Thanks guys. I'll probably put on the wheel then tap the end of the shaft and put in a bolt and washer. The bushing further down will be pretty easy to do.



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