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What can a B do?

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Ripley

07-30-2007 09:41:16




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I'm looking to buy my first tractor a Allis B, but what can a B do? I would like to put an after market 3pt hitch on it. Once that is in place will I be able to run an brush hog or finish mower with it? What other PTO equipment can be operated with it? Or should I look for something else?




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hd6gtom

08-01-2007 18:15:30




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 Re: What can a B do? in reply to Ripley, 07-30-2007 09:41:16  
They are a neat little tractor. Just remember they don't have a live PTO. If you hook a bush hog to it, it can and will push you around even with the clutch pushed in. We used an overriding clutch on the PTO shaft for many hours to combat this problem. Some people thought they had trouble with these overriding clutches coming apart. All the ones I saw that came apart were caused buy the operator trying to using too big of an implement with it. ,

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Nat

08-01-2007 11:20:30




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 Re: What can a B do? in reply to Ripley, 07-30-2007 09:41:16  
[Mine pulls a quick mount 1 row cultivator, a 5' box blade, a 6' landscape rake and a 24 disc finnishing harrow quite well. Here is a pic of it with the disc hooked up. Mine has the snap coupler and a 3PH adapter as all my equip is 3PHquote="Traditional Farmer"](reply to post at 04:06:49 08/01/07) [/quote]third party image[/img]

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T.J.-N.J.

07-31-2007 16:27:02




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 Re: What can a B do? in reply to Ripley, 07-30-2007 09:41:16  
If we are going for specifics, The old man that still owns the place I grew up on didn't go from a horse to a "B" from Allis, he went from a team to an "F" from Fordson We were dairymen though not crop farmers, kinda became grain farmers when he bought his all crop 60, which he still has. T.J.



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John (MO)

07-31-2007 14:24:31




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 Re: What can a B do? in reply to Ripley, 07-30-2007 09:41:16  
Well some people have said it replaced a horse, but in my area people weren`t farming with one horse, they were farming with 2, 4 and more horse teams. And it was the WC that replaced those. The B and the C may of been popular some places, but in the corn fields, been fields and hay fields around here they were not to be found. Neither were the CA's or the D10's or D12's.



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ohio

07-31-2007 15:58:37




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 Re: What can a B do? in reply to John (MO), 07-31-2007 14:24:31  
2 heavy horses can pull 1-14" bottom for quite a while, 4 can pull a 2 bottom. 6 can pull 3 for a short time, and any more than that is just a show. so i'd say that the b replaced a team pretty well, and it wouldn't get tired at the end of the day.



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Traditional Farmer

08-01-2007 04:06:49




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 Re: What can a B do? in reply to ohio, 07-31-2007 15:58:37  
Yep a B will kill two or 3 teams of horses trying to keep up on a hot day and the best part is on days you need the B it doesn't 'eat' anything.Also if you need more PTO HP a D14 or D15 engine will bolt right in.Add the side hydraulics off a D10 or D12 and you got a fancy little tractor



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ohio

08-01-2007 18:19:42




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 Re: What can a B do? in reply to Traditional Farmer, 08-01-2007 04:06:49  
sure enough. BUT, it's alot more relaxing, and quite a bit more satisfying to spend the day working with a good team. plus, with the price of gas.....



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Traditional Farmer

08-02-2007 04:10:16




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 Re: What can a B do? in reply to ohio, 08-01-2007 18:19:42  
Walking around following a couple horses ain't my idea of a relaxing time (yes I have done it)
plus gas is cheap compared to horse hay and when I park the tractor in the Fall I don't have to 'feed' it til Spring



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ohio

07-31-2007 12:30:53




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 Re: What can a B do? in reply to Ripley, 07-30-2007 09:41:16  
if it won"t do something you want it to do, (within reason!) weight can be added & h.p. is easy to come by.
you won"t find another tractor as simple. makes a farmall "a" look like something rube goldberg engineered!



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T.J.-N.J.

07-31-2007 10:44:45




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 Re: What can a B do? in reply to Ripley, 07-30-2007 09:41:16  
A B is a great little machine, mine is just about back together after sitting for a few years. I have a "C" with a 3 point and it does a lot of work for the money. Get yourself a manual for it and read,it they are little and cute but they can hurt you if you are not careful, they don't have a lot of the safety equipment that the newer stuff has, they were the first tractor for a lot of farmers who had farmed with horses and they must have worked out ok because they sure made a lot of them. Parts are readily available and very reasonable and if you are mechanically inclined they are not to tough to work on. I have been around the little Allis's going on 30 years and if you respect them and take care of them they wont let you down. T.J.

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own 2

07-31-2007 06:27:30




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 Re: What can a B do? in reply to Ripley, 07-30-2007 09:41:16  
Run a 6" snow plow
Pull a 6" disc
Pull a drag harrow
Pull a hay rake
Drive a 5" belly mower Drive a 6" sickle mower
Pull anything designed for 2 horses (like spreaders, potato digger, etc) Pull a 13 hole grain drill
Move hay wagons around
Pull start the big Oliver when the batteries are dead
Fit in the lawn shed (watch the door width)
Cultivate corn
Sit outside for 10 years and still start.

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old

07-30-2007 11:17:50




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 Re: What can a B do? in reply to Ripley, 07-30-2007 09:41:16  
A B will do most any thing you need to do on a farm but it will do it slower/smaller because of its size. I will handle a 4 or 5 foot brush hog, if not real heavy on a 3 point. If its a real heavy one the front end will come up off the ground. It will plow disk, mow etc. It just does it slow because its small at around 20HP. I have a C which is about the same as a B and I have a front lift and snow plow for it and a 3 point and back blade on it. I use it all the time for the small stuff.

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Traditional Farmer

07-30-2007 10:49:36




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 Re: What can a B do? in reply to Ripley, 07-30-2007 09:41:16  
My father and grandfather farmed 175 acres of assorted crops,hayland and cattle with 2 Bs from 1945 to 1957 when my dad bought a WD45.Pulled a AC Roto Baler,a 40 combine,plowed,disked,cultivated and other farm work.



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Dick L

07-30-2007 10:09:48




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 Re: What can a B do? in reply to Ripley, 07-30-2007 09:41:16  
It run anything any 20 horse tractor will run. I have mowed 4 acres of yard with a Woods belly mower for 6 or 7 years. I mulched 3 acres of hay that was to short to make into hay a few weeks back. I plowed and fit 4 acres of ground that I put to hay and pasture. I haul manure with ia B some times. When I was a kid our neighbor farmed 80 some acres with a B. My Dad farmed 148 acres with a C Allis. Mowed hay with a pull type mower also pulled a Jonh Deere 12A combine.


Below is a B with a C front. I do have to comfess that that B is a little over 20 horse.
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mark

07-30-2007 11:22:13




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 Re: What can a B do? in reply to Dick L, 07-30-2007 10:09:48  
brother, I'll tell you....that's gettin' it the hard way.....but sure beat the hell out of a horse or mule!

I had a CA several years ago....it was just so much more machine than a B. Better hydraulics, snap coupler, spin outs, 4 speed, hand clutch and probably a few more ponies.



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Dick L

07-30-2007 12:04:52




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 Re: What can a B do? in reply to mark, 07-30-2007 11:22:13  
That was playing. If I wanted to make it easy I would have used my Oliver 1850 or the 1650.



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mark

07-30-2007 15:14:13




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 Re: What can a B do? in reply to Dick L, 07-30-2007 12:04:52  
Dick,

I am sure you were playing....I was referring to the old-timers farming big acreage with those B's. Here in Kentucky, there used to be a lot of B's used for cultivating tobacco. Sometimes they'd rake hay with them as well. More small farmalls were owned than Allis'....many seemed to prefer the down pressure hydraulics....which I never seen any real advantage of.

I'll be the first to stand up for the Allis make. IMHO...(very humble)....but they were heads above the rest in the 50's and 60's. Well built, over engineered and very stout pullers. Of course, some will swear by Packards and Edsels...which like the Allis, are long gone.

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Jack a

07-31-2007 03:22:30




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 Re: What can a B do? in reply to mark, 07-30-2007 15:14:13  
Woods rep. told our local Woods dealer that their number one seller for belly mowers was the L59 set up for C and B Allis tractors. That was about 15 years ago I was told this by the dealer.



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old

07-30-2007 13:43:23




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 Re: What can a B do? in reply to Dick L, 07-30-2007 12:04:52  
Plus a B or a C will fit in to small places a lot better then one of those Olivers. I know I use all sorts and sizes of tractors and some times you just can't beat a small tractor when its tight and a small area



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