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What kind of tools do I need to restore a tractor (195X WD)?

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Will Herring

07-28-2007 08:33:18




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I have slowly been collecting stuff to work on an old Allis Chalmers WD (straight shifter) that is sitting in a field at my grandpa"s farm. I just got my inherited WD (crooked shifter) up and running again a few years ago, but have had to tweak it and fix stuff as I go... But I just wondered what kind of tools and stuff I need to work on fixing an old tractor like this?

I have very nice socket and open wrench sets that I use as it is, and a good assortment of various lubricants. Gumout carb cleaner, WD-40, a spare bottle of Transmission Oil (thank you OLD, the stuff works great!), a grease gun, and a regular oil can.

I am looking into if I should get like a drill press, a bench grinder, but I have no idea what I will need. Any suggestions on tools I will need?

I work in a mechanics shop now, but we don"t really do complete tractor overhauls and that sort, we do more product testing and minor repairs.

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garyh

07-30-2007 10:25:53




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 Re: What kind of tools do I need to restore a tractor (195X in reply to Will Herring, 07-28-2007 08:33:18  
Will, I have never heard it mentioned here but one of the handiest tools for moving a non running tractor is a push- pole, mine is a 10 foot peice of 2 1/2 pipe with tabs welded to each end and holes to drop a pin into, allows you to load and unload a tractor safely with another tractor drawbar to drawbar. And to answer your ? every shop needs an oxy- acet. torch. gh



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old

07-28-2007 09:31:58




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 Re: What kind of tools do I need to restore a tractor (195X in reply to Will Herring, 07-28-2007 08:33:18  
No matter how many tools you buy you will find there is always one you need to have. I have around $10,000 tied up in tools and still don't have near enough tools. One thing that you will find you need is a good air compressor and a good impact gun. You also need at least 1 of every wench size you can get and then some. My self I have socket wrenches in 1/4 inch, 3/8 inch, 1/2 inch and 3/4 inch. I also have open end wrenches up to 3 inches and down as small as below 1/4 inch. Yes also a welder and drill press, and shop press also. So in other words you can never have enough tools on hand

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Will Herring

07-28-2007 12:33:37




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 Okay... Now where do I start? in reply to old, 07-28-2007 09:31:58  
Also, I need to know where to start... I intend to pull the poor thing out of the field and onto a flatbed trailer with my other WD, and then haul it to town. But how to get it off the trailer and into the garage to work on it? (or into my own shed, if a few years pass and I am able to get my own place).

I have an AC Manual that I bought for $6 from an antique tractor show a few years ago, but basically I just intend to start by taking off the sheet metal, taking out the spark plugs, and then pouring some transmission fluid onto the 4 cylinders, since I know they probably won't move - but I'll let them soak for probably a few months before anything major happens to the engine. I plan to take the hood off, then the exhaust manifold, and replace whatever needs doing there. Then the waterpump, radiator, and generator (unsure if I will go with 12 volt system or not).

But figuring out the rear oil leak may be a tough one. I figure it's probably a seal I can only get to by splitting the tractor? I definitely need some sort of floor jack.

Oh well, hopefully in a year or so I will have gotten somewhere on this project and can see what you guys think... Even if it was just to get the poor thing out of the field and somewhere that I can get it out of the weather and start working on it.

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old

07-28-2007 13:35:11




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 Re: Okay... Now where do I start? in reply to Will Herring, 07-28-2007 12:33:37  
One nice thing about the WD tractor is you can pull the engine out and the tractor will still have its wheels under it so you can roll it around. To unload it if you have a tree etc. you can hook on to and a com-a-long they pull off pretty simple. One thing you might look at getting first off is an engine hoist of some sort then you can pull that engine if you need to. As I said you can and never will have enough tools and I've been buying tools now for 30 plus years and theres always one I would like to buy and haven't had the $$ to do so. Thats alos the problem as you go you need bigger better tools so they start to cost more and more

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Will Herring

07-28-2007 16:59:01




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 What brands to buy? in reply to old, 07-28-2007 13:35:11  
Well, most of the stuff I have bought up until now has been Craftsman. I've been collecting tools for the past 7 or 8 years, so I don't buy a lot, but I try to buy the best that I can.

But if I go to buy a drill press, and a bench grinder, and a chop saw... What brand is good? The stores around here seem to mostly carry Delta.



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ohio

07-28-2007 17:21:49




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 Re: What brands to buy? in reply to Will Herring, 07-28-2007 16:59:01  
go to auctions & buy old stuff! anything good nowadays i big $ (like $1,500 for a "good" drill press!) rockwell, craftsman, wilton, delta & the like used to be of near production quality. buffalo forge was about the top of the line, (for cheap stuff). check ebay! new tiawan stuff is of poor quality, and chinese stuff is not worth scrap price! heck, take a gieger counter to it. they bought the scrap from chernobyl!

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Will Herring

07-28-2007 11:25:40




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 Re: What kind of tools do I need to restore a tractor (195X in reply to old, 07-28-2007 09:31:58  
Well, from what I already know about this tractor, is that the engine is stuck (from sitting outside forever), it needs a new radiator, water pump, possibly a new manifold, a new muffler, a bunch of new gauges, and new wrapping for the steering wheel. Probably will have to rebuild the carbeurator.

The part that bothers me is that I am told that the rear end leaks oil BADLY. I was told by the owner that one time it leaked so much out he could only get the tractor to go in reverse. But I know it's not a stuck shifter, because I can still shift all the gears properly.

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old

07-28-2007 13:37:17




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 Re: What kind of tools do I need to restore a tractor (195X in reply to Will Herring, 07-28-2007 11:25:40  
As far as some of those parts let me know I have a WD parts tractor here and I still have most of it. E-mail is open



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william myers

07-28-2007 09:16:03




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 Re: What kind of tools do I need to restore a tractor (195X in reply to Will Herring, 07-28-2007 08:33:18  
I just got through restoring a d-17, u will need at least a 6hp air/comp. if u r going to blast.. small sand pot, floor jack, paint sprayer, air impact wrench,

steve



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Will Herring

07-28-2007 11:27:03




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 Re: What kind of tools do I need to restore a tractor (195X in reply to william myers, 07-28-2007 09:16:03  
I think the first thing I am going to try and get is a chop saw, a drill press, and a bench grinder. What's a good brand to shoot for, and what is an expected price range? I found a new Delta drill press for about $100 the other day, but it's a bench model. I'd prefer the ones that stand about 5 foot tall.



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