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D14 Live PTO or Not? What is a Power Director?

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Noel Putman

04-30-2007 17:30:26




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Hello,
I am looking at an AC D14. The salesman told me that it has a Live PTO. That I will be able to shift gears by putting the Hand Clutch into neutral, leaving the PTO clutch engaged and PTO running and thereby having a Live PTO. I am reading some posts here and this does not seem to be the case (or is it?) Will I be able to shift gears with the Power Director into neutral and leaving the PTO engaged. Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Noel

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John (MO)

04-30-2007 18:40:16




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 Re: D14 Live PTO or Not? What is a Power Director? in reply to Noel Putman, 04-30-2007 17:30:26  
NO!!!!! DO NOT shift gears using the power director on the D series tractors or the hand clutch on the earlier tractors. Yes, it can be done, but in the long run you will be very sorry. That is one of the big reasons that some tractors jump out of gear. The hand clutch and the power are designed to allow you to stop and start movement of the tractor while continuing to operate the PTO and hydraulics. Some call that live power, some call it independent, it doesn't matter what you call it, it allows you to continue using the PTO and the hydraulics while you stop-start, speed up-slow down the tractor. The D series manual says to shift gears by using the "engine clutch on the left side of the tractor" and to stop movement of the tractor before doing so. I will admit that I started driving tractors before I was big enough to use the foot clutch. But at that age, I didn't do much shifting at all. Soon as my leg was long enough I was taught the proper way to shift was to push the foot clutch, allow the tractor movement to stop and then shift. We didn't have trouble with tractors jumping out of gear. The power director has a High, Neutral and Low position, giving you 2 speed ranges for each transmission gear.

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John (MO)

04-30-2007 18:54:18




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 Re: D14 Live PTO or Not? What is a Power Director? in reply to John (MO), 04-30-2007 18:40:16  
Forgot to say that the D14 is a very good tractor, with lots of power and ability for it`s size. Make sure that previous operators haven`t damaged the transmission by improper shifting, it will be an expensive fix if they have and can render a tractor pretty much unusable. To test a D14 for transmission problems: In each gear drive the tractor on a level area or going down hill, first with the power director in high and at a fairly high throtle setting. Then quickly pull the power director back in to low. This will put a reverse load on the transmission. Instead of power going from the engine through the transmission to the wheels, the power will go from the wheels through the transmission to the engine, causing what is called engine braking. If you have a transmission that has been abused too much it will jump out of gear and into neutral. It is most common in 3rd gear but can be a problem in any gear. If the tractor does jump out of a gear when you do this test, you need to check further. The problem can be just warn or bent shifting forks. The parts that slide the gears around in the transmission. This is much easier and cheaper to fix, than if the problem is with the gears themselves. Warn gears can really reduce the value of a tractor because of the trouble and expence to fix. Good luck.

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wilman

04-30-2007 18:23:27




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 Re: D14 Live PTO or Not? What is a Power Director? in reply to Noel Putman, 04-30-2007 17:30:26  
Define your meaning of "live".

If by "live" you mean pushing the foot clutch in to shift gears and having the pto and hydralics still work, no, they did not.

If you mean "live" by being able to stop forward or reverse travel and still have the pto and hydralics work, yes they did by using the hand clutch.

I would not shift a D-14 or for that matter a WD series by just using the "hand clutch". The hand clutch on a D-14 is called a power director is basically a "high, low" in each gear. D-14"s are good, dependable tractors. Make sure it doesn"t jump out of 3rd gear or any gear, this happens when you try and force it into gear or try to change gears with out using the foot clutch.

Wil

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old

04-30-2007 17:55:07




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 Re: D14 Live PTO or Not? What is a Power Director? in reply to Noel Putman, 04-30-2007 17:30:26  
Can't say for sure if you could shift gears or not on that one but I do know it would have live PTO. I do know on the WD and the WD45 you can shift gears by pulling the hand clutch and they have live PTO



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Noel Putman

04-30-2007 18:04:44




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 Re: D14 Live PTO or Not? What is a Power Director? in reply to old, 04-30-2007 17:55:07  
Thanks,
Does anyong have experience with the D14?



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