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Allis Chalmers i400 tractor opinions/value

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Kubota Orange

04-26-2007 11:18:39




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From my name you can see that I am a fan of orange, although a different orange and am a little unfamiliar with AC's.

I am seeking opinions/information/value regarding an Allis Chalmers I-400. I have found an I-400 gas version for sale that the owner wants $4500 for. (Condtion: Paint original and is very good, 3 pt with draft control, PTO, dual range tranny 8F-2R, and power steering. Rear tires 80%, front tires 30%. Hour meter broken and shows 2980 ??? hrs. Starts and runs well, but hydralic pump may be weak as it seems to need the motor revved to get it to pick up a light load on the 3pt.)

1) Would this make a good tractor for primarily a 5' bush hog and 6' rear blade used to grade driveway and push snow? (Loader compatible if I decide to add later?)
2) What is a fair value?
3) Parts be hard to get now? (In 20 years?) 4) What is the PTO hp rating for this tractor?
(Owner thinks around 45 hp, I am thinking it is similar to a D10 tractor and closer to 30 hp).
5) Any known problems to check for?

thanks for any and all opinions/replys,

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Dave Anderson

04-27-2007 17:00:04




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 Re: Allis Chalmers i400 tractor opinions/value in reply to Kubota Orange, 04-26-2007 11:18:39  
Sounds like you have an I-40, if the muffler hole is round and the sheet metal is original. Is the hydraulic pump mounted just above the pto shaft? or is it under the governor? Once again the serial number is the key you need. On the left (carb side) of engine, find the seam where the motor meets the transmission. The serial no will be hand stamped on the trans side of the seam. the number will be on a stretch of this flange that is approx 45 degrees off level.

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Kubota Orange

05-01-2007 17:38:15




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 Re: Allis Chalmers i400 tractor opinions/value in reply to Dave Anderson, 04-27-2007 17:00:04  
Dave - I think I finally found the serial numbers - there were two rows of stamped numbers at the location you told me to look: 1st row) I400 1671
2nd row) 12-7863-R

Also, I was mistaken about the muffler hole in the hood - it is oval shaped. All the other information that I previously provided was correct.

Does this shed any more light on the year and h.p?



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Kubota Orange

04-27-2007 18:14:02




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 Re: Allis Chalmers i400 tractor opinions/value in reply to Dave Anderson, 04-27-2007 17:00:04  
The hydraulic pump is at the rear of the tractor, just above the PTO shaft. Stickers are labeled I-400 and appear oringinal , but they could be wrong or even from a donor tractor. If it is an I-40, is that good or bad as compared to an I-400? It will probably be Monday before I can try to look at the tractor's serial number again.

Other things that I can note from memory:
1) To me, the tractor looks almost exactly like a D-10 except with a square nose/grill (i.e. not rounded like the D-10's). The primary gear shifter is shaped like a D-10 and the battery is to the left and slightly rearward of the seat just like a D-10.
2) Front axle is heavy duty and non-adjustable - width is approximately 5' wide.
3) Rear tires are 12.4" X 28" on spin out rims. Spins outs are about in the middle setting and tractor is about 5' wide at rear.
4) Wheelbase approximately 74"-77". 5) The power steering fluid resivor was on the right side of the engine - near the middle of the valve cover.

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Dave Anderson

04-26-2007 18:34:30




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 Re: Allis Chalmers i400 tractor opinions/value in reply to Kubota Orange, 04-26-2007 11:18:39  
To answer your questions I need to ask one. is the muffler round or oval? Oval means series 3, rarer, more hp. Get the serial # from the torque tube flange, carb side, where engine meets torque tube, just ahead of and below the fuel bowl. Hydraulic problem might be minor, but I need to know if its series 3 or earlier. Motor parts-no problem. Price about right. Will do what you want it to do. Get it going downhill and see if it jumps out of third gear. About 34 hp, but pulls like its got 40.

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Kubota Orange

04-26-2007 20:26:26




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 Re: Allis Chalmers i400 tractor opinions/value in reply to Dave Anderson, 04-26-2007 18:34:30  
Dave - Thanks for reply. I will try again to locate the serial number, but have been unsuccesful on 2 previous attempts to find it.

As for the muffler: It is a replacement aftermarket "Stanley" muffler. The Stanley muffler is round, blown out, and needs replaced. Did the oval mufflers require a larger oval hole in the hood? The hole in the hood is round and seems to match the aftermarket muffler size that is cuurently installed.

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Kubota Orange

04-26-2007 14:46:06




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 Re: Allis Chalmers i400 tractor opinions/value in reply to Kubota Orange, 04-26-2007 11:18:39  
I am not a collector so rarity does not necessarily appeal to me. I am only concerned with using it as a tractor on a 5 acre minifarm. Rarity actually scares me some by thinking that parts will be harder to find. Note: As for the Kubota Orange handle it simply happens to be what I currently own - a 1978 L285 tractor with loader which is about 26.5 pto hp. I am happy with the L285 tractor as it runs excellent and is a miser on fuel, but it does not have power steering nor live PTO. This particular Allis appealed to me due to power steering, independent PTO, and a few more hp than what I have now. I do not log huge yearly hours on a tractor so the gas fuel consumption increase would not be an issue. Additionally, I am a fan of vintage tractors as they are what I have spent the most time operating and repairing. Tractors that I have logged many hours operating include: Oliver 1800 gas, JD 730 diesel, Int 1066 diesel, Case 430 utility deisel, Ford 8N, JD 60 Gas, JD B Gas, MM G705 diesel. Unfortunately, never been around AC's so not sure about their strengths and weaknesses. Simply been reading this forum as much as I can to learn more (primarily reading about D10's and D12's as i400 posts and information is very limited).

Thanks again for responses

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Traditional Farmer

04-26-2007 12:58:17




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 Re: Allis Chalmers i400 tractor opinions/value in reply to Kubota Orange, 04-26-2007 11:18:39  
Reasonably rare tractor sounds like its in the price range it should be. Will give years of service.Probably wear out 3 or 4 Junkbotas(LOL)



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