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D17 Diesel engine swap with 262 gas

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zebrafarm

04-16-2007 10:43:44




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I have a 1959 D17 diesel with a shot engine. Pistons have holes in them but the head is good. It appears to be too expensive to rebuild. I have access to a 262 propane engine which came out of a combine. The problem we are facing is that when a carburetor is attached (in the center of the intake) it will hit the power steering pump shaft coming out of the regulator. I need the power steering as I have a loader on the tractor. How can this problem be overcome? Is there a intake with a "off-center" access for the carburetor? If so, where, how can I buy one?...thanks for any reply or help....

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Kent of SWMO

04-17-2007 06:25:28




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 Re: D17 Diesel engine swap with 262 gas in reply to zebrafarm, 04-16-2007 10:43:44  
I have a C-II LP. I think you need to relocate your generator and pump slightly outboard to clear the carb and demand regulator. This may interfer with your loader. As far as I know the is no off center intake.

Kent



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zebrafarm

04-17-2007 06:38:55




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 Re: D17 Diesel engine swap with 262 gas in reply to Kent of SWMO, 04-17-2007 06:25:28  
Ken of SWMO..thanks for this input and you are correct..it will hit the loader...right now I have found that the later model D17 diesels and D19 had power steering pumps on the left side. I am looking for a bracket and pump...I think they were Webster or Barnes...do you have any info?



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Kent of SWMO

04-18-2007 05:24:39




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 Re: D17 Diesel engine swap with 262 gas in reply to zebrafarm, 04-17-2007 06:38:55  
No, but I just had a thought. Could you put a diverter valve in the D-17 hydra. system and do away with the seperate pump. I think this is what is done on 190's like Dad's. You might also need to use some type of regulator to reduce the system pressure. A diverter valve MAY do this. I do not know THAT much about Hydra. systems. I also think that my C-II Gleaner works thisa was as the power steering is power by the main and only hydta. pump on the machine.

Kent

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Ken L.

04-16-2007 16:06:56




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 Re: D17 Diesel engine swap with 262 gas in reply to zebrafarm, 04-16-2007 10:43:44  
Something here is rotating in the opposite direction but, it ain't the engine!



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cadet trooper

04-17-2007 18:12:20




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 Re: D17 Diesel engine swap with 262 gas in reply to Ken L., 04-16-2007 16:06:56  
Okay Ken L. it was probably my brain that was rotating in the opposite direction I was having a senior moment it's been over forty years since I did time behind those old girls both gas and diesel and the only thing I remember was the exhaust stack was on the right side for the diesel and the left side for the gas engines and that D-19 gasser could burn the paint off the space shuttle. I'm not sure by the way if he's going to make this a gasoline engine or LPG I missed that one.

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cadet trooper

04-16-2007 14:58:37




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 Re: D17 Diesel engine swap with 262 gas in reply to zebrafarm, 04-16-2007 10:43:44  
I'm not sure but physically it should fit and one thing I can't remember for sure is I believe the exhaust comes out on the opposite side which for some reason makes me think it rotates in the opposite direction. Have fun. CT



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zebrafarm

04-16-2007 17:44:02




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 Re: D17 Diesel engine swap with 262 gas in reply to cadet trooper, 04-16-2007 14:58:37  
I have confirmed that the engine is rotating in the same direction. The exhaust will need "S" shape curve off the manifold in order to use the same hole. My main problem right now is I am going to need a power steering pump off a Series 4 D17 Diesel which is located on the left side of the engine. The one I have, the series 1 has the power steering pump coming off the generator on the right side and the carb will hit it...so it has to move
Thanks!

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John (MO)

04-17-2007 09:00:25




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 Re: D17 Diesel engine swap with 262 gas in reply to zebrafarm, 04-16-2007 17:44:02  
I"m thinking it might be easier to a little shop engineering on the manifold rather than move the pump. What about cutting the neck off the manifold and relocating it to the rear? To me that seems like it might be simpler.



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zebrafarm

04-18-2007 07:58:48




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 Re: D17 Diesel engine swap with 262 gas in reply to John (MO), 04-17-2007 09:00:25  
After reading many replies from this forum and others, it appears that the best way to move forward is to 1) extend the bracket holding the Series 1 generator further downwards IF there is room or 2) attached a D19 PS pump which will not interfere with the carburetor

If option 1 does not work then I will be in the market for a D19 PS pump

Thanks for all the input.



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