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1964 AC 190 Diesel

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Blue Horse

04-08-2007 07:51:05




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Not being too familiar with AC tractors, I was wondering if some who are could enlighten me as to a fair price for a 64 model 190 diesel....it is at a dealer, and the listed price is $4950. Tires are only about 10%, it has an older AC cab, and about 5000 hours. I have not seen it as yet, but was told the engine may need some injector work, as it runs roughly when first started. Otherwise a good-appearing and running tractor, I'm told. (This is the regular 190, not an XT). Is there anything I should be aware of regarding this early model of a 190? (rear end, trans, etc.) Thanks.

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Blue Horse

04-10-2007 05:14:38




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 Re: 1964 AC 190 Diesel in reply to Blue Horse, 04-08-2007 07:51:05  
I had not realized that AC apparently used a lighter rear end/axle in the early 190's...is there a way to tell if this is the case? Also, how were the regular 190 gas tractors on fuel? I remember trying out a used 190 XT about 25 years ago from a local dealer....it seemed to really drink the fuel (it was a gasoline model). Ended up not buying it because of a click in the rear end that scared me off....otherwise the price was reasonable.

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John (MO)

04-09-2007 08:05:13




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 Re: 1964 AC 190 Diesel in reply to Blue Horse, 04-08-2007 07:51:05  
Unless the tool box is stuffed full of money, the price is WAY TOO HIGH. At an auction, which is where I suspect this tractor will end up, if they can"t find a sucker quickly, this is a $1500 to $2000 tractor. Local JD deal usually will put some crazy price on non-green tractors, they don`t sell and they don`t stay on his lot long. They all go to auctions where they get a reasonable price for them, but then the buyer can`t bad mouth the dealer for selling something that needs lots of work. If by chance they do sell something at a crazy price, they have enough profit to put up with an unhappy buyer.

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Jr64

04-09-2007 05:02:35




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 Re: 1964 AC 190 Diesel in reply to Blue Horse, 04-08-2007 07:51:05  
It all depends on who had it and how it was taken care of. I guess I'd wonder if someone would run the tires off like that and not replace them, did they short cut maintenance in other areas too? I've had a '64 190 for nearly 40 years now. We've pretty much been through it but for that many years and hours that's just normal maintenance. Ours still has the light rear end and small axle. It also has the 1-2, 3-5, 4-6, and 7-8 shifting pattern, versus the more common 1-2, 3-4, 5-6, 7-8. Probably the oddest thing that happened to it was that the timing gears went out on it. Seems that the early ones had soft gears in. To find good used ones is tough and to put in the new hardened gears requires new camshaft, etc....according to the parts book. I'd go look at it and drive it. I'd wittle on the price by about $1000, however.

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Blue Horse

04-09-2007 05:01:10




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 Re: 1964 AC 190 Diesel in reply to Blue Horse, 04-08-2007 07:51:05  
Thanks for the advice, all. I hope to be able to go to the dealership and look at/drive the tractor in the near future, but unless they would significantly lower the price, it seems that I would be better served by finding one at a farm auction that was in better condition.



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Floyd352

04-08-2007 16:51:02




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 Re: 1964 AC 190 Diesel in reply to Blue Horse, 04-08-2007 07:51:05  
I have one I bought for 1500. It had cavitation in the pistons [leaked water] I fixed it with block sealer. It was handy as the gears were not in order which made doing hay faster. check the gears the injectors aren"t too expensive to get replaced. I loved mine till a rod end cap came off making a huge hole in the block and knocking 3 inches off the cam shaft.



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J Plunkett

04-08-2007 09:49:59




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 Re: 1964 AC 190 Diesel in reply to Blue Horse, 04-08-2007 07:51:05  
That's a 2,000 dollar tractor, run fast you'll have at least 10,ooo in it and it will only be worth about what there asking for it. Tires injectors who what else nothing is ever as easy as they say if it was they would fix it and make there shop some money



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old

04-08-2007 09:36:35




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 Re: 1964 AC 190 Diesel in reply to Blue Horse, 04-08-2007 07:51:05  
If you go look at it drive it around if you can and make sure it doesn't pop out of any gears. That seems to be one of the big problems with the 190 and the 190XTs.



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