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driving on windrow or WD wide front end

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flinny

03-15-2007 09:00:15




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I've found a baler I like for my WD
The trouble is, you have to stradel the window
and my WD is narrow front end

Would it work OK to drive on the windrow?

...or

Does anyone have a wide front end for a WD in the upper midwest?

thanks,
flinny




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cadet trooper

03-16-2007 16:11:49




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 Re: driving on windrow or WD wide front end in reply to flinny, 03-15-2007 09:00:15  
I tell you what would be perfect is Hesston made a 5530 which produced a 39"X 54" round bale machine over 20 years ago and I sold a couple but I don't know if they ever caught on at that time because there seemed to be no demand for them.Brand new they sold for $6800. We always called them a 500# bale but that is deceiving because the technology at the time was to roll hay at a high level of moisture and (that takes horsepower) either treat it with a liquid nitrogen kit or bag them and evacuate them and seal them up. I'm sure New Holland made a competitive machine but I don't remember the number.

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flinny

04-04-2007 08:48:31




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 Re: driving on windrow or WD wide front end in reply to cadet trooper, 03-16-2007 16:11:49  
Thanks for the reply.

Couldn't find much info through google

Any idea where I can get one?

i'm in wisconsin.

thanks again,
flinny



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BCnT

03-15-2007 15:08:29




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 Re: driving on windrow or WD wide front end in reply to flinny, 03-15-2007 09:00:15  
watch the movie again...theres 2 hydraulic lines running from tractor to baler.
i havent heard anything bad about these balers other than theyre from china...way i look at it they been feedin how many billion people for how long...must know their way around farm equiptment



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JMS/MN

03-15-2007 14:52:33




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 Re: driving on windrow or WD wide front end in reply to flinny, 03-15-2007 09:00:15  
After looking at the picture of the baler you want to buy----- ----the simple answer is NO! Beyond that - whatever big round baler, if you run front tractor wheels over a windrow, they will lose leaves on alfalfa, etc. If you want to run a round baler, you need a wide front.



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flinnyAfter looking at th

03-15-2007 18:54:41




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 Re: driving on windrow or WD wide front end in reply to JMS/MN, 03-15-2007 14:52:33  
"After looking at the picture of the baler you want to buy----- ----the simple answer is NO! Beyond that - whatever big round baler, if you run front tractor wheels over a windrow, they will lose leaves on alfalfa, etc. If you want to run a round baler, you need a wide front."

no alfalfa, i'm a grass farmer.

Does this change your response?

Will it still pick up all the grass window, I guess i'll just have to see

thank you, flinny

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JMS/MN

03-15-2007 20:19:39




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 Re: driving on windrow or WD wide front end in reply to flinnyAfter looking at th, 03-15-2007 18:54:41  
Sure- it will pick it up. And with grass, there are no leaves to lose. Then....the only problem is if the tractor can run the baler,- hyd requiremnts, etc. WD is generally on the short side of that- they were made three decades before round balers were made---



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John (MO)

03-15-2007 11:52:53




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 Re: driving on windrow or WD wide front end in reply to flinny, 03-15-2007 09:00:15  
VERY PRICEY baler! If you can afford one of those, you can afford a tractor that has the hydraulics to run it and that won't run over the hay. Sure you can put a wide front on a WD, but unless you mount a front crank mounted hydraulic pump, you will have a very very slow baler even when you rework the WD for 2 way hydraulics. If you are going to bale with a WD, get a used AC rotobaler or an old square baler. You can rebuild them from top to bottom and not come even close to having the money you`d have in one of those Starr balers.

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flinny

03-15-2007 13:13:49




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 Re: driving on windrow or WD wide front end in reply to John (MO), 03-15-2007 11:52:53  
Here is a movie of the baler

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flinny

03-15-2007 12:52:09




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 Re: driving on windrow or WD wide front end in reply to John (MO), 03-15-2007 11:52:53  
"VERY PRICEY baler! If you can afford one of those, you can afford a tractor that has the hydraulics to run it and that won't run over the hay. Sure you can put a wide front on a WD, but unless you mount a front crank mounted hydraulic pump, you will have a very very slow baler even when you rework the WD for 2 way hydraulics. If you are going to bale with a WD, get a used AC rotobaler or an old square baler. You can rebuild them from top to bottom and not come even close to having the money you`d have in one of those Starr balers."

Laugh. Well, I don't know if I can afford it or not. You could say, if I buy that expensive baler, no wonder I use an old WD.

I must be missing something, there is NO hydraulic lines, as I understand it. The baler door is opened by a compression, on machine hydraulic cylinder (or maybe there are two). All the operator does is trip a switch.

I have a small baler & the WD handles it fine. My problem is that I am getting up there in years and don't know how much longer I will be able to strong arm small bales. I've been reworking my operation to convert to large bales, so that the skid steer can do the manual work. In fact, I am re-working my entire farm, for the day when I have to slow down. I never want to quit farming.

This makes a 500 lb bale, mid way between a small bale and a regular large baler. Just right for me... scales nicely with my other equipment and facilities.

Is this really more than a new large round baler would cost?

thanks,
flinny

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old

03-15-2007 10:03:35




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 Re: driving on windrow or WD wide front end in reply to flinny, 03-15-2007 09:00:15  
Are you talking about a round baler or a square baler?? If you talking a round baler your WD will probably not have the HP to run it. If your talking about a square baler it will sit out to the side so you will not be running over the windrow with the front tires if you rake and bale it the correct way

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flinny

03-15-2007 11:15:45




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 Re: driving on windrow or WD wide front end in reply to old, 03-15-2007 10:03:35  
I'm talking about a large round baler, here is the link:

"Designed for tractors with as little as 25 horsepower. Makes a tight, twine-wrapped bale. Bale size is approx 3x3. Bale weight is approx 500lbs."

Link

It looks like it only uses a two point hitch, but I'm not sure how I would hook it up. What do you think? Is the hitch just to raise or lower the head?

thanks,
flinny

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Badly Bent

03-15-2007 17:43:27




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 Re: driving on windrow or WD wide front end in reply to flinny, 03-15-2007 11:15:45  
Looks like the hitch is just used to raise and lower the front of the machine. The toplink normall used on a 3-point is not used. It also appears that, just like you thought earlier, this thing uses hydraulics from the baler itself to open eject the bale. I would want to make certain of that, however.



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flinny

03-15-2007 18:58:40




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 Re: driving on windrow or WD wide front end in reply to Badly Bent, 03-15-2007 17:43:27  
Bradley said: "Looks like the hitch is just used to raise and lower the front of the machine. The toplink normall used on a 3-point is not used. It also appears that, just like you thought earlier, this thing uses hydraulics from the baler itself to open eject the bale. I would want to make certain of that, however."

That is what it looks like to me to. All the "two" point hitch does is raise and lower the baler. Plush pull it. most of the wieght is on the baler wheels. I am certain of the hydraulics coming from the baler. Not sure how though, checking.

thank you,
flinny

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flinny

03-15-2007 18:46:21




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 Re: driving on windrow or WD wide front end in reply to Badly Bent, 03-15-2007 17:43:27  
I agree,

What the others see (two "hydraulic" lines, are in fact two pull cords.

But, for sure, I'm going to check it out for sure.

Do you think this is too much for a baler? I simpley cannot manhandle small bales anymore. I need to use equipment.

thanks, flinny



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Badly Bent

03-16-2007 05:13:26




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 Re: driving on windrow or WD wide front end in reply to flinny, 03-15-2007 18:46:21  
Could the WD work on it? Probably so. Could you perhaps find a cheaper alternative? Possibly. You've got to check and see if you can find something that makes sense for your situation. I looked at those Star 800 series balers and it appears that the bales turned out by those are very similar to the old AC Rotobalers! Interesting.



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Sid

03-15-2007 22:42:44




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 Re: driving on windrow or WD wide front end in reply to flinny, 03-15-2007 18:46:21  
For what it is worth, I think even in grass hay you will have trouble in some cases with the baler picking up all the hay. One site I looked at had a price of around thirteen thousand for that baler. I have a tractor and loader that I paid eight thousand for with a ten foot bush hog. For a little over two thousand I bought a 4x5 round balere that suits me just fine. I would recomend looking around a little bit. I watched that video and that sure is a noisy little thing.

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flinny

03-16-2007 07:02:52




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 Re: driving on windrow or WD wide front end in reply to Sid, 03-15-2007 22:42:44  
good suggestions, will do.

i probably will hire the baling done this summer, but those big rounds are just too big && I don't want to hire it out over the long haul.

thanks
flinny



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