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Allis C problems/questions... more.....

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Uh oh

03-08-2007 21:12:23




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Well, got the block and head cleaned at the "machine shop". tried a new one,figured nobody could be worse than the oreilly auto parts machine shop. boy was i wrong. all was fine untill i pulled around back to load up my block and head and the guy says, it will be a minute, i forgot to clean your main caps. I asked him immediately if he marked he main caps as to where they came from and kept the shims with each one, and he assured me he did. at this point i still trusted them and didnt think anything of it when he took the caps out of their washer and put everything in a box. Caps werent clean at all, shims are all missing, and the caps are not marked as to where they go. Nice. Of course the machine shop assures me they put the shims in the box and they were clean, and marked. I got tired of cussing them so i think i got them figured out so long as the main bearing with the thrust type setup is on the #1. Can anyone tell me if im right on that? Also, can anyone tell me what i need to do shim wise on this? am i going to have to have it align bored and forget the shims or ??? I was talking to my buddy Chris (aka In Too Deep) and i told him i believe this tractor is cursed. as you may remember my post on here about this motor supposedly being "rebuilt and done right", it just seems to be one thing after another. lol. Tonight i got around to the crankshaft, and find the pulley key is sheared and i cant get the old one out, cant even see where the outline is. so, there is never a lack of something to do on this one. but, yeah, its cursed. thanks for your help on this...

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A/C Boy

03-10-2007 14:51:39




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 Re: Allis C problems/questions... more..... in reply to Uh oh, 03-08-2007 21:12:23  
Send me your phone # and I will give you a call > I just rebuild a d-15 160 ci engine. I learned some thing and will share them with you. [email protected]



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Dave Anderson

03-09-2007 16:41:45




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 Re: Allis C problems/questions... more..... in reply to Uh oh, 03-08-2007 21:12:23  
You need to get some plastigage. What this is is a wax thread that you put between the bearing and crank. When you tighten bolts, it crushes wax, then you take apart and see how wide the wax has become-this tells you the bearing clearance. Most machine shops/auto parts stores can get it.



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Butch(OH)

03-09-2007 06:02:53




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 Re: Allis C problems/questions... more..... in reply to Uh oh, 03-08-2007 21:12:23  
Well, in defense (sort of) of your machine shop sounds like normal fare to me. I learned a long time ago not to send shims along with the block and to mark the caps. Not defending their pratices as right but "par for the course"

Maybe I confuse easily but over the years I have found that even when things are marked they can be installed backwards, upside down etc so I developed a standard pratice for match marking things I take apart and it realy helps when things are aprt for a long time.

1. When you have a series of parts, like main caps #1 is the front or fan end no matter what the Mfg calls front or rear.
2. Always mark the part on an area you can plainly see when assembled correctly.
3. Place the mark towards the front of the part.
4. If confusion could still exist mark part on side closest to camshaft.

I only have to remember, 1 is front, mark goes forward, mark towards cam and I can see mark when assembled. A lot simpler in pratice than typing it or reading it and has saved much head scratching over the years..

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old

03-08-2007 21:43:29




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 Re: Allis C problems/questions... more..... in reply to Uh oh, 03-08-2007 21:12:23  
Well if you make it down here tomorrow or the next day just bring that crank with you and let me see if I can find it for you and pop it out. Shoot I still have a crank and a block laying around here that is good for that matter. You might bring some thing to drink LOL. Also we could look at what I have here and maybe figure out some things on it. You do have a book don't you?? If not you can look at the one I have and maybe copy a few pages from it

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TxAllisMan

03-11-2007 07:30:52




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 Re: Allis C problems/questions... more..... in reply to old, 03-08-2007 21:43:29  
I would not defend any machine shop that didnt have the knowledge or just out righ take the time to mark and tag parts.

I have worked in the automotive and industrial machine shop fields for many years and its the law to mark and tag parts.

I would demand a refund of my money along with money or replacement parts for what was lost.

I still work part time on call for two seperate automotive shops in my hometown and both shops follow the same exact tag and mark method for all parts.

I takes extra time but its worth the time and it keeps customers coming back to your shop.

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