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installing wc oil pan gasket?

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Rosco Sywter

03-01-2007 11:32:59




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i am trying to reinstall the oil pan on a 1936 wc. i am having trouble getting the cork strips that go in the 'arches' to stay in place long enough to get pan positioned and bolts in. the book mentioned useing retaining clips. my gasket set did not include any clips. are the clips necessary, or is there some other nifty way to do this. i have 4 cork strips. 2 are a little too long, and the other 2 are 1/4 inch longer.

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mlpankey

03-01-2007 16:09:15




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 Re: installing wc oil pan gasket? in reply to Rosco Sywter, 03-01-2007 11:32:59  
3m yellow wether stripping glue works well.allias gorilla snot



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Butch(OH)

03-01-2007 15:37:30




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 Re: installing wc oil pan gasket? in reply to Rosco Sywter, 03-01-2007 11:32:59  
Can the glue for a minute and pay attention to the pic below provided by Joe because it shows two things. The correct way to hold the end gaskets and the INcorrect way to have the side pieces. If you want to do this job once here is how to do it. From AGCO you can get a pan set with the clips (that is made of superior materials than the cork cheapies) for the cost of breakfast in town. Or you can purchase the clips seperatly also, but get them one way or the other. First thing you need to do is check the pan rails for being flat. I lay mine on my welding table but a floor will work, or a peice of 3/4 ply wood that isnt warped or the kitchen table if the woman has a sence of humor. Take a small ball peen and knock the rails flat to the surface paying close attention to the areas around the bolts. Now you are ready to install the gasket to the pan (not the block). Once you have the clips first assemble the ends with clips as shown. I use a very small bead of number 2 Permatex under the end gasket mainly so it can move if need be. Now the side parts should line up at the holes and be OVER the ends, not beside them as shown in the pic. If they fit take them back off and use a gasket cement or contact cement to attach the sides to the pan leaving them over the top of the end pieces. Looking at your pan from the same view as the picture you will have a gap where the side pieces ramp up to go over the ends. This is the place for a dab, not a glob, of silicone sealer. Both sides of both ends. Now look at your block and at the junction of the rear main cap to rail place (a 90 degree corner for the gaskets) place a dab of silicone at the junction, same for the timing cover end. Use nothing else between the gasket and block, isnt needed and the pan will come off without ruining the gaskets. Don't over tighten, 1/4" drive is fine for this work. go over the bolts several times and re check after a few hours.

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Joe M(GA)

03-01-2007 15:02:35




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 Re: installing wc oil pan gasket? in reply to Rosco Sywter, 03-01-2007 11:32:59  
Rosco, if you will wrap them around a 4" piece of pipe or a can overnight they will take on a curved form which will help alot. The strip should stick up about 1/8 to 1/4 inch on each side before the pan is tightened down. It helps to put a good squirt of sealer right where the strip and pan meet to help take up any gap. The extra lenght will be taken up as the pan is tightened. If you get your oil pan from AGCO it even comes with little clips to hold the strips in place.
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03-01-2007 11:37:15




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 Re: installing wc oil pan gasket? in reply to Rosco Sywter, 03-01-2007 11:32:59  
Thats one of those places that silicone gasket sealer works well. You put just a little silicone on then the gasket and hold it in place or use something to hold it in place for about 30 minutes then install the pan. It doesn't take more then a thin line of silicone to do the trick



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