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Value of a 1941 Allis RC?

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tator44

02-13-2007 09:51:05




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I'm just getting started in the tractor restoration hobby and I have the opportunity to purchase a 1941 Allis Chalmers RC. The engine is seized and hasn't run in about 3-4 years. The body and frame is in decent shape, but rubber is worn pretty bad, however it still holds air. What should I offer for this tractor? I can't find any information about what this tractor is worth now and then what it would be worth once it's restored. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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Tator44

02-14-2007 07:08:22




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 Re: Value of a 1941 Allis RC? in reply to tator44, 02-13-2007 09:51:05  
Thanks for all the great advice. I'll make an offer and see if he'll sell it. Also, thanks for the advice on unseizing the engine. I'll let you guys know how things work out.



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NE IA Dave

02-13-2007 21:33:16




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 Re: Value of a 1941 Allis RC? in reply to tator44, 02-13-2007 09:51:05  
I have SN/ 924, and they are kind of rare in our area as well.
I'm to lazy to do house work and way to cold to go outside so I will bore you with my crap.

It has been said that AC thought the RC was going to be a big seller. The UC was a very expensive tractor, and the WC was pretty expensive as well. They thought that farmer Brown would buy the cheaper RC, a two bottom plow, cultivator etc. It could pretty much do the same work as a WC just at alot slower pace. Then when they could aford the big WC they would definatly trade Allis again because the cultivator, steel wheels, plow etc would not have to be replaced. I guess the differance in price was to little so the WC was the prefered method, and the RC's were discontinued.
I don't thik you can go to wrong buying one as they are like others stated pretty rare.

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JMS/MN

02-13-2007 20:54:38




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 Re: Value of a 1941 Allis RC? in reply to tator44, 02-13-2007 09:51:05  
Mine is a 1939, paid $1100 for it with a saw rig on the front. Good sheet metal, wrong rears (spoked), engine loose, not running. 5500 made, so hard to find, certainly worth more than other AC of the era.



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Barry/Ma

02-13-2007 19:03:37




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 Re: Value of a 1941 Allis RC? in reply to tator44, 02-13-2007 09:51:05  
I have a 1940 RC I bought four years ago,for $750.It ran,had fair tires and a belly mounted mowing machine welded to the frame.Also a snow plow fram welded to the front end.OH! did I mention It had a new paint job right from spraycans over greese and dirt.JD Green with decls.I had to rescue it.I have seven times the perchas price invested into it now.WORTH EVERY SENT! to me ! My advice? It is a nice tractor buy the RC ! Barry

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wdTom

02-13-2007 17:39:10




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 Re: Value of a 1941 Allis RC? in reply to tator44, 02-13-2007 09:51:05  
I mostly agree with the other posts. I would add though that the RC was a somewhat rare tractor, only around 5000 made. It is a WC tractor with a B/C engine. It will have less power than other Chalmers tractors of the size, but not so little as to make it underpowered compared to other makes I would say. If it hasn't got water in the cylinders and is just rusted up a bit maybe you can get it free, it might even take a few weeks or a month or more of soaking with ATF, or other fluids that you can find out about by asking on this forum. Everyone has an idea here. All worth a try. If the boot on the transmission isn't in very good condition check for water in the transmission too. And change the oil in the final drives, many don't do this and it can get pretty bad. Let us know what happens.

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Ken L.

02-13-2007 16:37:45




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 Re: Value of a 1941 Allis RC? in reply to tator44, 02-13-2007 09:51:05  
I would agree with the other guys as far as what it's worth. By the time you get new tires and maybe an engine overhaul the price will get up there. Last year about this time I bought a 41 RC. Not one dent in the sheet metal, new front tires, very nice rear tires, all the lights are there and not one lens is even cracked. Needs paint, has PTO and belt pulley. The only thing it needed was a battery box. Hit the starter and it fired right up. Excellent little tractor. Also got a 1-16" Allis plow with it. I paid $1200.00 for it. Started it last week after it had been sitting for 2 months. It was -7 and it fired right up. I think that I got a good deal. Hope your works out for you.

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old

02-13-2007 10:57:16




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 Re: Value of a 1941 Allis RC? in reply to tator44, 02-13-2007 09:51:05  
I'd say its worth around $300 give or take a little. The RC at least in my area is a less common tractor. Uses the same engine as the B/C. If you get it you might try this to get the engine unlocked, its worked well for me on all but one engine and I have done 10 plus in the last year that where locked up. Fill the cylinders with tranny fluid and let it sit a few days. Then put a battery in it, 12 volt one work best then tap the starter button don't hold it but do short fast hits on it, most of the time if its going to pop loose that will get them loose.

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BDT in Minnesota

02-13-2007 10:32:57




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 Re: Value of a 1941 Allis RC? in reply to tator44, 02-13-2007 09:51:05  
I doubt that you would insult or offend anyone with an offer of $150 or $200...By the time you are done working the tractor over, you would most likely have two or three times more into it than you could ever sell it for..This would inclulde your hours of free labor, donated to the project....It may be best to treat this hobby like a bottle cap collection, and do it for enjoyment. Of course, there are occasional exceptions to the rule as far as final value, but don't get your hopes up about making a bundle by reselling it as a restored tractor.

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Leroy

02-16-2007 05:26:17




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 Re: Value of a 1941 Allis RC? in reply to BDT in Minnesota, 02-13-2007 10:32:57  
If there are any Allis tractor pullers around and they would find out about it they would give tripple that price just for the gears out of the rear end to put in a WC to give it slower speed so when they over rev the engine they are still under the 3MPH limit that the horn blows and if that happens too often they are disqualified.



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BDT in Minnesota

02-16-2007 06:56:32




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 Re: Value of a 1941 Allis RC? in reply to Leroy, 02-16-2007 05:26:17  
That is a good point to keep in mind...But If I come across an RC, however, it would be doubtful that it would resold or scrapped out...I have two grandsons, age two and four..I would enjoy sharing a restoration project on an RC.



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JMS/MN

02-15-2007 00:56:59




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 Re: Value of a 1941 Allis RC? in reply to BDT in Minnesota, 02-13-2007 10:32:57  
However many RC's you can find for $200, complete, stuck engines or loose, I'll gladly double your money.



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BDT in Minnesota

02-15-2007 07:22:07




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 Re: Value of a 1941 Allis RC? in reply to JMS/MN, 02-15-2007 00:56:59  
Well, maybe finding a nice old RC with good sheet metal for $200 would give my the same feeling as I got yesterday morning when I was sorting through some old junk mail, and found a check for over $1400...Just not everyday that that happens, but it sure does make it a great day....



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