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d10 crank in b

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hawken79

01-03-2007 23:03:10




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will a d10 crank fit in a b




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steve(ill)

01-04-2007 17:57:13




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 Re: d10 crank in b in reply to hawken79, 01-03-2007 23:03:10  
like Dick said, not even close.



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Dick L

01-04-2007 08:23:17




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 Re: d10 crank in b in reply to hawken79, 01-03-2007 23:03:10  
For something like six to eight hundred bucks.



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TxAllisMan

01-05-2007 10:50:47




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 Re: d10 crank in b in reply to Dick L, 01-04-2007 08:23:17  
I was thinking about doing the same thing with a spare block that I have but I didnt know that it would run into so much money.

I have access to a couple of automotive machine shops with line bore/hone machines and crank turning lathes and rod resizeing equipment.

What makes the install so high?

I also understand that a D10 block can be bolted up to b/c/ca trans and front pedistal.

Am I correct in the D10 block fitting the b/c/ca?

Damon
N.E. Texas

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Dick L

01-05-2007 19:48:55




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 Re: d10 crank in b in reply to TxAllisMan, 01-05-2007 10:50:47  
I sent the first one out to a machine shop after I did the layout in my machine shop. The machine shop does a good job on grinding crankshafts they have a big lathe but said they were afraid to recut the mains. The first shop sent the crankshaft to another shop for the lathe work. That bill was 400.00. The lathe cut into the cross drilled oil holes. Those had to be driled and plugs drove in and welded. The crank was also welded to make a full 4 inch stroke. The crankshaft was then ground to standard for the smaller B, C engines. The crankshaft was then redrilled for the oil to go from the mains to the rods. That was just under the 400.00.
The second one was much cheaper as I did my own lathe work. I drilled and pluged the old holes as well as welded them. When the crank was ground I set it up and redrilled the oil holes myself. You could get by some cheaper if you didnt extend the stroke and did not set up the rods for pressure oiling.

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steve(ill)

01-05-2007 15:15:58




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 Re: d10 crank in b in reply to TxAllisMan, 01-05-2007 10:50:47  
the entire motor will fit as the front and rear mounting bolts have the same pattern. problem is the D10 has a 3/8 inch longer stroke, bigger diamer main bearings and bigger diameter rod bearings. you would have to bore the block for the bigger bearings, find shorter connecting rods so the pistons dont hit the head, and make sure the crank dont hit the bottom of the sleeves and sides of the bearing blocks. I thin i would just use the 139 or 149 engine if i wanted bigger than the 125.

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TxAllisMan

01-05-2007 23:20:19




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 Re: d10 crank in b in reply to steve(ill), 01-05-2007 15:15:58  
I have an entire pile of leftover goodies at my disposal that I was considering putting together another tractor.

I have an entire D10 engine and an adjustable wide front from a late model B along with a B transmission and an entire C rearend. I have a complete set of b/c sheetmetal along with a bench seat and steering assembly.

I thought it would be near to put it together instead of just letting it stay pile up.

What do you all think of my thought on putting this cross bread together?

Damon
N.E. Texas

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