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Nat

12-20-2006 13:40:03




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I brought an old B home today that is some what unusual. It has 3 piece cultivators and it has a seperate front and rear lift. It has the early snap coupler on the rear arms. How unusaul is it and did Allis make different snap coupler equip for it other that the rear toolbar? from the serial number it is a 1950 model.can anyone offer more info on it? Thanks, Nat




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Deere 40

12-20-2006 18:17:52




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 Re: Need some B Allis experts! in reply to Nat, 12-20-2006 13:40:03  
I had a neghbor bought new B early 50's had that type cultivator on it we had B with old type that had frame from front to back it was hard to set up it would plow get front plows in ground it would pull tail plows out of gound and vise versa. Merry Christmas.



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CHALMERSBOB

12-20-2006 15:34:12




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 Re: Need some B Allis experts! in reply to Nat, 12-20-2006 13:40:03  
THERE WAS A SNAP COUPLER MADE FOR THE B. IT HAD THE BELL MOUNTED ON THE DRAWBAR WHICH WAS MOUNTED IN FRONT OF THE FINAL DRIVES AS THE PLOW DRAWBAR IS MOUNTED. THE REAR ROCKSHAFT WAS THE SAME AS ON A CA. IT ALSO USED 2 RAMS OF THE TYPE USED ON A CA. BOB



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Nat

12-21-2006 16:23:20




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 Re: Need some B Allis experts! in reply to CHALMERSBOB, 12-20-2006 15:34:12  
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Bob, here is a pic of the tractor I bought. This pic shows how the front lift works



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chalmersbob

12-21-2006 18:28:35




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 Re: Need some B Allis experts! in reply to Nat, 12-21-2006 16:23:20  
don't know what you are showing, but its doesn't look like any snap coupler arangement that i've ever seen. i don't remember any lift mecn like thart on the front, only regular drawbar mounted in front. bob
p.s. couldn't open you other pictures, only first one.



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Nat

12-21-2006 16:27:02




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 Re: Need some B Allis experts! in reply to Nat, 12-21-2006 16:23:20  
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Here is a pic of the snap coupler latches. I don't have the snap coup[ler bell, someone removed it to install this 3PH, which sticks nearly 3' behind the tires



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old

12-21-2006 16:35:34




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 Re: Need some B Allis experts! in reply to Nat, 12-21-2006 16:27:02  
That looks like a flip over waiting to happen and or you hurt to boot. Also they really messed up the draw bar didn't they?



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Nat

12-21-2006 16:33:36




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 Re: Need some B Allis experts! in reply to Nat, 12-21-2006 16:27:02  
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Here is a pic of the rear toolbar with the bracket that the snapcoupler latches lock on to



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Nat Angell

12-21-2006 16:36:48




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 Re: Need some B Allis experts! in reply to Nat, 12-21-2006 16:33:36  
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Here is a pic of the front cultivator. It has a pin that goes into a hole on the radiator support and 2 slotted holes that fit onto the boss on the torque tube. Maybe these pics will help

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old

12-20-2006 14:00:39




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 Re: Need some B Allis experts! in reply to Nat, 12-20-2006 13:40:03  
Can't really help you much but I have a C that I made a front lift for and I did it from pictures Rod sent to me. If you have a picture of the front lift I could tell you if it was like the one I have and if so it was an option made for the Bs



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Nat

12-20-2006 14:09:14




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 Re: Need some B Allis experts! in reply to old, 12-20-2006 14:00:39  
Old, I'll take some pics tommorow so you can see the way the front lift works. It's pretty simular to a Super A farmall in that the front fits on each side and the rear is a snap coupler mounted tool bar. It doesn't have the bell underneath like a CA, the toolbar has 2 bars that are hingedand connect to the same holes that the drawbar hoohs to an has 2 rigid vertical bars the catch in the snap coupler latches. I am sure that I'm not calling these parts by the correct name, but that is how it works. I've never seen a B with the snap coupler latches so that throughs me some. Thatks, Nat

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old

12-20-2006 14:16:17




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 Re: Need some B Allis experts! in reply to Nat, 12-20-2006 14:09:14  
I've never seen one either but it could be parts off a CA whcih wouldn't take much to make fit a B. Shoot send me an e-mail and I can send you pictures of the lift I made, but it looks very close to what you could get on a B so it might give you some ideas



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TxAllisMan

12-23-2006 01:25:26




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 Re: Need some B Allis experts! in reply to old, 12-20-2006 14:16:17  
I might be wrong but the rock shaft arms with the spring locks look to be off a D series tractor.

Cant figure out why the draw bar was remaid like it is.



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