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WC motor in WD?

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Charlie

09-10-1999 19:25:32




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I have a WD-45 with a shot motor. I've been told that a WC motor will fit but little less power. Is this true? I just found a WC for lots less than a WD motor. Any help appreciated.

Charlie




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Gerald Wertz

09-13-1999 12:37:30




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 Re: WC motor in WD? in reply to Charlie, 09-10-1999 19:25:32  
I have two WD 45 engins for sale, and one empty WD block. Email me your location, and what is wrong with your block, and I will discuss prices.
Gerald



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Gordon Dornick

09-13-1999 22:04:27




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 Re: Re: WC motor in WD? in reply to Gerald Wertz, 09-13-1999 12:37:30  
Hi, Gerald, I am located south of Bloomington Indiana. I have a bad (cracked and badly rusted) WD block and a badly cracked WD 45 block. I might be interested in one of your engines or the block if we can get together on price and I don't have to travel too far to get it. How far from Bloomington Indiana are you located. Please e-mail me direct at: [email protected] so we can talk. Thanks, Gordon

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Gordon Dornick

09-13-1999 08:42:36




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 Re: WC motor in WD? in reply to Charlie, 09-10-1999 19:25:32  
Hi, the WC motor has a 4" bore and a 4" stroke, came in a number of compression ratios over the years, with cast iron or aluminum pistons and had a short or thin cyl head with 12 or 15 studs and ran at low speed. The early WD had a similar motor with a short or thin cyl head with 15 studs and aluminum pistons with higher compression ratios and ran at higher speed. The later WD motors (also 4" bore and 4" stroke) had the tall or thick cyl head and used 15 bolts. The WD 45 has a 4" bore and 4.5" stroke, a tall or thick cyl head that used 15 bolts, an improved govenor (oil line lubrication) and a heavier (stronger) block with no side pan or cover. Over the years there have been many cyl sleeve kits in oversize bore and high compression oversize bore configurations available for gas and LP applications for these motors. There is a lot of interchangability between these motors, but, not all parts will interchange, or will interchange and not perform properly. You can put an early WC carb on a late model WD 45, but, you would not want to do it; it would reduce the power too much. It is sometimes difficult to tell what parts the engine has been rebulit with unless you measure each part and check casting numbers and forging numbers. I have seen a WC motor (block) rebuilt with WD 45 parts and it ran every bit (exactly) the same as a WD 45 motor. It had the lighter WC block; how long would it run? It may still be running. I would rather have the heaver, stronger WD 45 block. If your WD 45 Block is not cracked or damaged, you might want to rebuild it. I would suggest the 4 1/8" bore (1/8" overbore) high compression cyl sleeve kit for the WD 45. Clean the inside of the camshaft (that is the main oil gallery) thoroughly. Be sure to replace the cam bearings and verify clearance is within specs, set all rod and main bearings within specs and make sure the oil pump is within specs. Hope this helps, good luck, be careful, Gordon

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D. Dixon

09-16-1999 19:01:33




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 Re: Re: WC motor in WD? in reply to Gordon Dornick, 09-13-1999 08:42:36  
A FINAL FOOTNOTE : I was at a tractor show this last weekend in Westminster Maryland, and talked to a fellow there who had a WC tractor with a (guess what) engine/ THATS RIGHT FOLKS!! A WD45, but what a WD45! It was full of all kind of goodies and his working RPM (for pulling) was(are you ready for this?) 3250 RPM. So I guess you can DEFFinately use a WD engine in a WC. Whats next? Did someone mention a GMC671 Blower? DON

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ROBERT

09-11-1999 14:10:43




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 Re: WC motor in WD? in reply to Charlie, 09-10-1999 19:25:32  
price an eng. out of an 4 cyl. combine
the one thay used in d17 also ROBERT



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Aaron

09-10-1999 21:16:05




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 Re: WC motor in WD? in reply to Charlie, 09-10-1999 19:25:32  
It'll drop right in, minus about 10 to 15 horse. Depending on what is wrong with yours, it might be better to fix yours. Or find a 45 engine to put in.
Aaron



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Charlie

09-11-1999 08:03:39




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 Re: Re: WC motor in WD? in reply to Aaron, 09-10-1999 21:16:05  
I forgot to ask, Would the crank and rods from the WD 45 motor go in WC to up the HP any? Charlie



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Charlie

09-11-1999 08:00:13




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 Re: Re: WC motor in WD? in reply to Aaron, 09-10-1999 21:16:05  
Thanks, I'm willing to give up a little HP. I will use it mostly to bush hog and maybe light baling.

Charlie



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D. DIXON

09-11-1999 19:14:26




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 Re: Re: Re: WC motor in WD? in reply to Charlie, 09-11-1999 08:00:13  
Both the WC & The WD have exactly the same bore and stroke, beaing sizes,ect. The only difference is that the WD has a compression ratio of 5.75 to the WC compression ratio of 5.5. plus the engine loaded speed of the Wc is 1100 to 1300 rpm and the wd is 1400rpm so your connecting rods and crankshaft will fit but will not do you any good for horsepower increase, but if your WC has flat headed pistons you can use the domed pistons for a slight increase in horse power. An Allis dealer can tell you but I really dont think you will loser 15 horsepower by going to a wc engine.Some engines did also have cast iron pistons and some aluminum.Im almost positive that all the parts are interchangeable from Wc to WD. Hope this helps Don

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