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WC vs WD and B vs. C

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ShowMeGuy

10-25-2006 14:26:05




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Hey all, I'm just trying to see what he differences and plus and negs of the these tractors? I know dittly squat about AC stuff.. I only have a could of ford N's. Looking for another cheap fun project.
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mike in mo

10-26-2006 16:33:47




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 Re: WC vs WD and B vs. C in reply to ShowMeGuy, 10-25-2006 14:26:05  
are you looking for a restore to show or a tractor to fix up and use. if its fix and use how cheap you want i got a mutt ill sell ya cheap its a WD with a D17 gas motor it has 3 bolt wide front, trip bucket loader and a 3 point with combine tires. it needs front tires, head rebuilt, and the hand clutch fixed i got the part for the clutch the tin needs work to but it will start and run and the loaded will go up and down. email me if you want to know more.

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dej(JED)

10-26-2006 09:51:45




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 Re: WC vs WD and B vs. C in reply to ShowMeGuy, 10-25-2006 14:26:05  
If it is cheap you want, the AC WC can be found almost anywhere in the USA. Expect to pay around $50 to $500. I have also bought B's & C's at around the same price, but slightly higher. The WD is going to be a little more, but around $800 should get you a restorable one. Check the engine for water though on the WD's as they are known for cracked blocks.



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85_Ranger4x4

10-26-2006 08:06:57




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 Re: WC vs WD and B vs. C in reply to ShowMeGuy, 10-25-2006 14:26:05  
Actually I beleive the 116 cubic inch engine was used until 1943 or serial # 64500. Our 1942 B had the 116 engine and like most over time it was replaced with the later 125 cubic inch engine.



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Roger A. NY

10-26-2006 06:41:26




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 Re: WC vs WD and B vs. C in reply to ShowMeGuy, 10-25-2006 14:26:05  
Show, Actually the B,C info is not complete. The B, from 1938 thru 1940 used the 3 1/4 by 3 1/2 engine at 1400 RPM. This engine was tested on distillate which gives it less hp. By 1941 the C was out and used a 3 3/8 by 3 1/2 engine at 1500 RPM and after that the B used the exact same engine at the SAME RPM and the belt hp is within seven tenths of a horse power. The drawbar hp is less on the B as the tractor weighs less mostly due to the narrower tread of the B. Also the '38 B was tested on 7 x 24 tires and the C was tested on 9 x 24 tires. A later test of the B in 1950 had the B on 10 x 24 tires. These C and late B tests are on gas as per the Nebraska test book since 1920.

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Dick L

10-26-2006 18:10:01




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 Nuther Thing On B C in reply to Roger A. NY, 10-26-2006 06:41:26  
The B has a taller gear in the final drive than the C. At the same RPM,s in the same gear the rear axle will turn faster on the B than the C. The slower gear in the C will result in a higher drawbar HP in a test. This can be overcome somewhat with smaller tires on a B.



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85_Ranger4x4

10-25-2006 17:43:45




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 Re: WC vs WD and B vs. C in reply to ShowMeGuy, 10-25-2006 14:26:05  
The C is rated a couple hundred more RPM otherwise they are the same motor. It is pretty easy to match a C for power, just tune the govener as a C.



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old

10-25-2006 15:32:01




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 Re: WC vs WD and B vs. C in reply to ShowMeGuy, 10-25-2006 14:26:05  
Just to add a little the WC as per the neb tests has a little less HP then the WD, same engine differant tranny set up. Same with the B and C, the C has a little more HP. All of them are good old tractors. Shoot I even have a few of them for sale right now. I have a WD, WD45, and a pair of C on the place. HP wise the B/C is about the same HP as the Ford Ns and the wc/wd are in the 30HP range give or take a little

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85_Ranger4x4

10-25-2006 14:54:01




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 Re: WC vs WD and B vs. C in reply to ShowMeGuy, 10-25-2006 14:26:05  
The WD is a more refined WC, more power, foot brakes, live power sort of (second clutch), spin out wheels and the possiblity of adapting to the snap-coupler hitch system that came out with the WD-45's (WD-45 = a WD with more power, better tranny, and snap coupler)

The B vs C, B has a wide front and is narrower. The C is wider and heavier, usually narrow front but has a optional adjustable wide front. Pretty much the same tractor otherwise.

I like A-C's probably about the best, they are a snappy little tractor that plain won't give up powerwise. However about a week before production it seems they were like, "dang we need to put a seat on this thing yet" They are quite comfy for short rides (less than 4-5 hrs) as it is like sitting in a lazy-boy with the foot rest up (not quite but close), there is no way to brace yourself for a big bump and after awhile my back starts to ache as well as most people that I talk to that ran them agee. You can only sit in one position on a WC,WD,WD-45,B, or C, which is sprawled out. The D-Series supposidly fixed this, but I have never been around one. That is my one and only real gripe about them, and it is really pretty minor.

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