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maricopa

09-03-2006 21:06:08




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I just changed oil in my b today and oil on dipstick looked new and fresh (wanted to go with straight weight not multi), but when I drained it, along with fresh was black, thick and alot of grey sludge. What do I need to do short of teardown to clean engine? I tried gunk last oil change and it looked fine. Am I getting water in crankcase?????Radiator is full. Help.
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maricopa

09-05-2006 20:19:05




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 Re: oil in my b in reply to maricopa, 09-03-2006 21:06:08  
Thanks for all the help. I went on the theory that it must be water because last oil change everything looked fine. Turns out, the raincap was out of level and after the last big rain, I got showered with 'ol black water from the exhaust. Adjusted cap. Will flush engine and change oil and filter this weekend.
Thanks again.....



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Dick L

09-06-2006 08:54:50




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 Dont Get in reply to maricopa, 09-05-2006 20:19:05  
Dont take from my story that I recommend doing what I did way back then. I never did that with any of mine. If the pan was full of sludge I took the pan down and checked the bearings and crank for out of round.



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Dick L

09-05-2006 07:18:01




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 Old Timers Story in reply to maricopa, 09-03-2006 21:06:08  
Back in the 1960"s I worked in a factory of 300 workers or more. Take home pay was on the high side 70 dollars a week for me and I made more than most in the factory. I was the plant auto/truck mechanic and did repair work at home in the evenings. Most of the people that I worked with ran their car until it would need more repair than it was worth. You could buy an older used car for 50 to 100 dollars that ran fairly good. Problem was that a lot of them had not had regular oil changes. When you would remove the oil pan plug what ran out would be thick and black. You could crook your little finger into the pan and feel thick crud that would not run out. Without loan power and just spending what money that could be scraped up to buy the car, a tear down was out of the question. I would put 6 quart of diesel in a 4 quart crankcase and run at not over 30 MPH for some where around 5 to 6 miles and pull the plug on the pan while still hot. Refill with diesel and run at an idle for a few minutes and drain again. Refill with new 10 weight oil and run for around 20 miles and drain while still hot. Refill with 30 weight oil and then back to the persons regular oil change which some did not do often. Never seen any engine damage from this treatment. This was not an idea that I dreamed up as most service stations around here would do this for people that did not have money to buy better cars.

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Sid

09-05-2006 19:52:19




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 Re: Old Timers Story in reply to Dick L, 09-05-2006 07:18:01  
Dick L I have done pretty much the same thing myself on a couple of old cars. Sure stopped a lot of rattling. Got quite a few miles out of something somebody else gave up on.



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old

09-04-2006 08:20:14




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 Re: oil in my b in reply to maricopa, 09-03-2006 21:06:08  
Just a warning I would never run an engine with diesel fuel in the oil pan it doesn't lube enough to not hurt the engine. You can pull the pan, something like 17 bolts give or take a few. You can also change the oil and use a good brand of oil the is a dergent type oil and run it a day or so and change it again, also make sure you change the filter each time. It may take a few oil changes to clean it out but thats better then running diesel in the engine and costing you a rebuild or worse a whole new engine if a rod let go and went out the side of the engine

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Andrew Fischer

09-06-2006 11:11:16




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 Re: oil in my b in reply to old, 09-04-2006 08:20:14  
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The diesel flush, Ams-oil flush, and Sea Foam will clean the entire engine where the needs to be cleaned. The bottom of the oil pan has no moving parts to lubricate. Why waste your time taking it off and cleaning it when the entire engine is dirty. You can pull the drain plug and test for a water leak without pulling the pan. We flushed an old Farmall M and other older cars and tractors and it really helped. The entire engine got cleaner and the oil stayed cleaner too. I talked to another local mechanics since my last post and agreed with the flush idea. You won�t operate the engine for than a few minutes with the flush within the engine. You will clean it to that it can be lubricated with nice clean oil in the future.

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old

09-06-2006 14:17:13




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 Re: oil in my b in reply to Andrew Fischer, 09-06-2006 11:11:16  
Note the one guy said to fill it with diesel and START the engine and that is what I was WARNING about. Never run an engine with out the right type.amount of oil in the engine or it will destroy its self



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Andrew Fischer

09-06-2006 15:14:32




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 Re: oil in my b in reply to old, 09-06-2006 14:17:13  
He actually said run it with the diesel for a short time. This method is also used on a water-flooded engine by some mechanics. I don�t want to argue over something trivial like this. It is obvious not everyone is going to agree on every method. I am making a recommendation that has worked well for us in the past. Lets drop it and try to get along. I would talk some tractors. Best of luck with the B whatever method you use to clean it up.

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Andrew Fischer

09-04-2006 06:57:24




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 Re: oil in my b in reply to maricopa, 09-03-2006 21:06:08  
It sounds like it got water in through the exhaust at one time or it may have not had the oil changed for many years at one point in it's life. You can buy engine flush at a local auto parts store and flush the engine. You can even fill the crankcase up with diesel fuel and run it for a very short time and drain the gunk out. You can add Sea Foam to the exsiting oil and it can work wonders. If it runs good and you are not loosing coolant I would not loose too much sleep. I would use 10W 40 oil, because it has cleaning detergents in it.

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Larry in Mo

09-03-2006 22:11:21




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 Re: oil in my b in reply to maricopa, 09-03-2006 21:06:08  
Maricopa; Pull the oil pan and clean it out. Not a very big job on a B. Might want ot look at the oil filter also, if haven't done it already. This will let you look up inside the lower part of the engine to see if there are any other issues there. When you put the oil pan back on put 3 or 4 bolts in it loosely and leave it over night to see if you have a water seep. The crud may have been years of accumulation that didn't drainout. May also been the victim of cheap non-detergent oil. LE

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