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Got a B sitting at the house. . .

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ShepFL

07-10-2006 11:52:58




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How does one crank start this thing? Only way I can start it is by pulling it in 3rd gear.

Thanks




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Sid

07-11-2006 03:54:14




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 Re: Got a B sitting at the house. . . in reply to ShepFL, 07-10-2006 11:52:58  
The way I was taught by an Allis mechanic and why. Engage crank at the twelve o'clock position. Stand on left front side of tractor,looking across tractor. Grasp crank with left hand, DO NOT wrap thumb around crank. Place right hand against tractor hood. Push off with right hand while pulling with the left . The why, if the tractor kicks backs it will jerk the crank out of your hand away from you and you will have a tendancy to fall away from spinning crank. If you place crank in nine o'clock position and and pull up if it kicks back it will have a tendancy to pull you into the spinning crank.

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ohio

07-10-2006 13:48:16




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 Re: Got a B sitting at the house. . . in reply to ShepFL, 07-10-2006 11:52:58  
turn on gas, set throttle to 1/2, make sure tractor is in neutral, choke it if it's cool. insert crank so you're pulling up, get it to 9:00,(don't wrap your thumb around it!) pull up untill about 12:00. rinse & repeat. mine usually starts on 2nd one. a starter/generator would not be able to roll my b over, unless it was huge!



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BCnT

07-10-2006 13:21:43




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 i always wondered about something... in reply to ShepFL, 07-10-2006 11:52:58  
years ago i remember the combination generator/starter delco unit's on cushmans and golf carts...mite be an easy conversion for those tractors without the starter hole and ring gear PLUS the 12 volt upgrade in one package...it should have enuff power to spin a low compression engine with a good battery.
now before any of tha correct police start cookin tar and lookin fer feathers i think this would be a good solution for those of us that use our tractors for more than parade purties.

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old

07-10-2006 14:04:50




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 Re: i always wondered about something... in reply to BCnT, 07-10-2006 13:21:43  
BC, I asked that same question a couple years ago when I was haveing trouble finding a starter for a cletrac I had and was told that they don't have enough torque to spin over an engine like what the B would have or in my case a contential flat head. But you do have me thinking that I might be able to make one work on my gravly modle L since I could pull start it any more due to my bad back. I have a number of starter from golf carts laying around and maybe I need to try to rig something up.

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old

07-10-2006 12:02:16




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 Re: Got a B sitting at the house. . . in reply to ShepFL, 07-10-2006 11:52:58  
Shep, is it a mag system or a distubutor/battery system?? I'm guessing its a mg system and if so you need to make sure the impulse in the mag is working and is timed right. If it isn't you will not get it to run by hand and worse you could have it brake your arm, BTDT and believe me its not fun to have one kick back on you. Drop me an e-mail and I can send you some info on the mag system if it will help you. Of courseyou could always set it up for eletic start

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ShepFL

07-10-2006 12:42:28




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 Re: Got a B sitting at the house. . . in reply to old, 07-10-2006 12:02:16  
Mag system, 1939 Model. Cute as a button but a bear to crank!!



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Dick L

07-10-2006 13:10:27




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 Re: Got a B sitting at the house. . . in reply to ShepFL, 07-10-2006 12:42:28  
Timing could be a problem but could also be low on vacuum/compression or not have that pool of gas under the feed tube in the carb needed for an easy start. I have seen home cleaned carbs/thinking and calling it was a rebuild/ where the feed tube or main jet was not removed and crud had built up in that area. When this is the case the only way to get them started easy with a crank is to spray starting fluid into the breather pipe or pray tell have the guts and stength to spin the crank. I was having a problem getting my C started with the crank( I had removed the battery to make weight) and this fellow came up and said let me give her a try. Grabbed the crank and whipped her over about four times and she was running. I just smiled and said thanks. What I was thinking was man you are short on something and it aint strength in your arms.

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old

07-10-2006 12:59:27




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 Re: Got a B sitting at the house. . . in reply to ShepFL, 07-10-2006 12:42:28  
I guess you could always mount an extra large hamster wheel on the front then jump in and start running sooner or later it would start if you did that. By the way you have e-mail with a couple pages about the mag



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