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The WD I've been working on just won't start!

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Will Herring

07-08-2006 14:03:11




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The one we changed the waterpump (the new gasket seems to seep a little though) on that has sat for several years will just not start.

I used the crank and turned it, the pistons are free. The plugs are newer, and the gas is reaching the carbureator.

The motor spins but the thing just won't start. What can it be? The points? No gas to the engine? Both?

Also, should there be washers on the three bolts that hold the water pump to the tractor?

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wilman

07-08-2006 19:06:06




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 Re: The WD I've been working on just won't start! in reply to Will Herring, 07-08-2006 14:03:11  
Do you have spark at the spark plugs? Is it a mag or distributer? If a distributer, you will need a battery to cause a spark and you should have spark at the points with the switch on. Also is it timed correctly? If the carb and everything is working right, you should be able to pull a plug and see if it is wet with gas after excessively choking the carb. Also since it sat for a number of years, did you make sure it had good compression?

Wil

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Will Herring

07-08-2006 19:44:05




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 Re: The WD I've been working on just won't start! in reply to wilman, 07-08-2006 19:06:06  
It's a distributer. I don't really know how to tear into the points and all that, I hesitate to tear into something I can't get back together or waste time tearing into something I should just leave alone.



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Dirt-Farmin

07-09-2006 12:27:12




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 Re: The WD I've been working on just won't start! in reply to Will Herring, 07-08-2006 19:44:05  
the dust cap pops off. Dont even try to clean the points just replace them AND the capacitor (always use a new capacitor)If you dont have feeler gauges, use a match book cover (almost perfect every time) Check and make sure the wire coming out of the dist isnt bare, typical prob on a 45. With the old points still in, open the points and see if you get a spark if not, check your 12V wire going to the coil and then the coil itself.

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Will Herring

07-09-2006 13:16:16




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 Re: The WD I've been working on just won't start! in reply to Dirt-Farmin, 07-09-2006 12:27:12  
Okay, so where exactly is the condenser? Under the points? I know where the coil resides, though.

What would it cost me to get a new rotor, cap, points, and condenser?



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wilman

07-10-2006 06:56:31




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 Re: The WD I've been working on just won't start! in reply to Will Herring, 07-09-2006 13:16:16  
So I take it you did get the dust cap off. The condensor is that little round thing that is connected to the points inside the distributor. Cost of everything you have listed would probably be $40 to $50???? Been a while since I have had to buy a new rotor and cap. Points and condensor I would think would be 20 or less but that is a guess also.

Let us know how you are doing.

Wil



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wilman

07-09-2006 10:19:21




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 Re: The WD I've been working on just won't start! in reply to Will Herring, 07-08-2006 19:44:05  
Agree with the others, get an I&T manual or service manual. You have nothing to loose right now because it isn't running and you will need to go thru an elimination procedure of everything that might be causing it not to run in order to get it running. Points are easy, pull the distributor cap off and then the rotor and dust cap and their are the points. If they are heavily pitted or corroded you will ideally need to replace them but could probably get by by shining them up a bit. If replacing doesn't make it start then you go on to the next step.

Wil

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BCnT

07-09-2006 07:48:53




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 lemme tell ya how i learned to set points... in reply to Will Herring, 07-08-2006 19:44:05  
i was 6 years old and my Dad had decided to tune his truck up [he had no mechanic in him whatsoever,rest his soul]
that truck sat in the front yard for over a week and i got a whippin every day he came home from work whether i deserved it or not...finally i went over to my best friends house and asked his dad to show me how to set points...that after noon when the old man got home from work i hopped in his truck and started it up...no whippin either hehehehehehe
the rest is history...i been turnin wrenches professionally over 40 years...give it a shot...it aint runnin now so whatchu got to lose.
do like old said and get a manual and READ it.

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Will Herring

07-09-2006 11:37:52




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 Re: lemme tell ya how i learned to set points... in reply to BCnT, 07-09-2006 07:48:53  
I have a manual, but it's not quite so in-depth...

So I took the cap off, and the little rotor... But how does the dust cap come off? Does it turn and pop off, or do I have to pry it off?



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old

07-09-2006 08:03:38




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 Re: lemme tell ya how i learned to set points... in reply to BCnT, 07-09-2006 07:48:53  
Hey BC have you ever found a bad dist. cap the hard way?? Meaning have you ever put your hand one one with the engine running and got the ____ zapped out of you. I still remember a pickup my dad had and it would run but not right, he took it to a couple of shops and no one could figure out what was wrong. Well one day it was in a shop and I was there and I found the problem I grabed the cap and got the ____ zapped out of me, they replaced the cap and rotor and it ran just fine, my dad did get made at the shop when they charged him for finding the problem when it we me that found it for them

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BCnT

07-09-2006 09:59:42




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 Re: lemme tell ya how i learned to set points... in reply to old, 07-09-2006 08:03:38  
i spent a lot of years workin at ford dealerships...you aint been zapped till you get it from a TFI ignition coil...it dont make ya wet yer pants...more like makes ya STEAM em
speaking of steam if i ran into a problem car with a miss i'd pull it into the paint booth...turn out all the lights so room was dark and use a steam iron to look for arcs in cap and high tension leads...worked better than using a scope most times.

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old

07-08-2006 20:49:18




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 Re: The WD I've been working on just won't start! in reply to Will Herring, 07-08-2006 19:44:05  
First off get an I-T manual for it. Your problem most likely is the points are bad, simple to fix if you know how. Shoot I can do that fix after drinking a 6 pack of beer and in the dark LOL



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