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Allis Chalmers B Oil

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malamute

06-30-2006 15:42:21




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Howdy everyone! I just purchased a 1952 AC B. I'm ordering a service manual, but in the meantime, I'd like to change the oil. What type and how much oil does this tractor require? Thanks in advance.




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Doug in OR

07-01-2006 21:50:52




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 Re: Allis Chalmers B Oil in reply to malamute, 06-30-2006 15:42:21  
See what can of worms you opened? LOL! The truth is, Allis recommended 30 in the summer and 10 in the winter. This was in the good old days, though. The first question that needs to be addressed is... has this tractor been using detergent or non-detergent oil? If it has been using detergent oil, just go with a good 10W-30 oil. If your tractor smokes or otherwise uses oil, you can go to a 10W-40 oil. Thicker oil is not always better.

If this tractor has been using non-detergent oil, you are in a whole new game. You either need to continue using a non-detergent oil, or switch to a detergent oil. If you switch to detergent, be aware that the detergent oil will most likely loosen the old crud, possibly jamming your oil filter and oil ports. The switch can be made, but change your oil about every 50 hours for the first four oil changes.

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malamute552000

07-02-2006 12:24:00




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 Re: Allis Chalmers B Oil in reply to Doug in OR, 07-01-2006 21:50:52  
Wow! I guess there is no easy answer. I have no idea what oil is currently in it. The previous owner bought it 6 years ago, never used it, and never changed the oil. Supposedly it came from a farm before that, so I would assume it saw use. It has a NAPA oil filter. It starts up and runs like a dream.



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Doug in OR

07-02-2006 13:45:53




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 Re: Allis Chalmers B Oil in reply to malamute552000, 07-02-2006 12:24:00  
If you feel ambitious, you can drop the oil pan and inspect. There will be considerable crud at the bottom if non-detergent oil is now being used. If it is reasonably clean, the previous owner probably used detergent oil. To be honest, just about all modern oils, multi-vis and otherwise, far exceed the original specs for your B. None of those who responded to your original request were wrong. You do need to pay attention to the replies concerning the oil filter. Some are too loosely packed and do result in a low oil pressure reading.

Good luck with your new B.

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Doug in OR

07-02-2006 09:38:51




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 Re: Allis Chalmers B Oil in reply to Doug in OR, 07-01-2006 21:50:52  
Whoops. I meant to say change your oil every 20 hours, if switching from non-detergent to detergent.



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steve(ill)

07-01-2006 21:44:05




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 Re: Allis Chalmers B Oil in reply to malamute, 06-30-2006 15:42:21  
i would not put a NAPA filter on an older ALLIS machine with a bypass filter system. Most of the NAPA filters in that application are made wrong. the FRAM C159 or BAldwin T300M are the ones to use. THE NAPA will cause a major loss of pressure and damage the motor.



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Mark - IN.

07-01-2006 19:53:35




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 Re: Allis Chalmers B Oil in reply to malamute, 06-30-2006 15:42:21  
Just did mine a couple of weeks ago. Same as always, 4.5 qts of SAE 30 Valvoline and a Fram C-159.

Mark



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russ1

07-01-2006 14:49:24




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 Re: Allis Chalmers B Oil in reply to malamute, 06-30-2006 15:42:21  
I run 15w40 in my1948 C. Fram C-159 is the only filter I know with the proper construction to maintain acceptable oil pressure in those B and C engines.



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Twincreeks farm

06-30-2006 19:54:20




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 Re: Allis Chalmers B Oil in reply to malamute, 06-30-2006 15:42:21  
If you have a NAPA go and tell them what kind of tractor you have and they will look up the filter for you. NAPA in my opion has the best filter. Every one of my tractors have a NAPA filter on them. Fram filters are a cheap piece of CRAP.



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Dick L

06-30-2006 19:27:21




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 Until You Get Your Manual in reply to malamute, 06-30-2006 15:42:21  
Peek at this page.
Have fun with your new toy.

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steve(ill)

06-30-2006 19:25:09




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 Re: Allis Chalmers B Oil in reply to malamute, 06-30-2006 15:42:21  
I like 10w30 motor oil. use th eC159 FRAM filter. the transmission, differential and bevel gear are all the same cavity. there are 3 of 1/2 inch pipe plugs on the bottom. fill with 8 quarts of universal hydraulic transmission fluid thru the 1 inch pipe plug on the left side of transmisison by your foot.--- dont forget the final drives, inside the tire rim there is a sheetmetal half moon pan. pull each and clean, then add a quart of 80-90 gear lube.

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Steve in N.J.

06-30-2006 19:07:11




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 Re: Allis Chalmers B Oil in reply to malamute, 06-30-2006 15:42:21  
Use the C159 Fram filters. If you can't find em' locally, we have the C159's in stock. Drop us a line if ya got trouble finding em. Stay away from the 1101 Napa filter.
Steve@B&B



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old

06-30-2006 16:01:42




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 Re: Allis Chalmers B Oil in reply to malamute, 06-30-2006 15:42:21  
I don't have my book close but I think its 4 or 5 quarts. My self I run a stright weight oil in my C which has the same engine as your be, I use 40W in it, but 30W would be good also.



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