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Hand cranking a WC

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Scott in Illino

06-27-2006 08:26:05




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Have never had a crank tractor before but now have a 37 WC. I cannot seem to find the right procedure for cranking it. I am hoping some of you who do this can tell me how you start yours as far as where to set the throttle and choke. I am aware of cranking in quarter turns up and over. I can always get it started but not without cranking more than I would like. Thanks for your help.




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Butch(OH)

06-27-2006 13:22:40




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 Re: Hand cranking a WC in reply to Scott in Illinois, 06-27-2006 08:26:05  
All of our hand cranker A-Cs start different. Most will need at least one handle lift of choke when cold. Some you have to choke until they start but if you choke our 38WC you will be cranking until cussing, it starts on pull #1 if you dont choke it. What all this means is you must try different things and when you start it easily, do it that way. 3-5 pulls to start should not be considered a problem, more than that you have a problem with technique or mechanics.

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gene (missouri)

06-27-2006 10:43:56




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 Re: Hand cranking a WC in reply to Scott in Illinois, 06-27-2006 08:26:05  
It usually takes 3 or 4 lifts to start my 36 WC when cold. Set the brakes, lock down the clutch, transmission out of gear.

Turn on the fuel. Throttle about 1/3 open. Full choke.

Lift one or two times until I hear the choke sucking. Choke about 2/3s off. Lift and lift. Should start.

Gene



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John (C-IL)

06-27-2006 10:12:08




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 Re: Hand cranking a WC in reply to Scott in Illinois, 06-27-2006 08:26:05  
On my WC, I turn on the gas to fill the carburator and then turn the gas off, give it full choke for 2 or 3 cranks. If it doesn't start I set the coke to 1/2 and crank again, it usually starts on the 3rd or 4th pull. When she fires I turn on the gas and set the choke as needed until she runs smoothly.



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K. Farmer

06-27-2006 09:41:14




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 Re: Hand cranking a WC in reply to Scott in Illinois, 06-27-2006 08:26:05  
I can't believe how much compression a WC has. my dad can hardly start it without flooding it.



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dej(JED)

06-27-2006 09:09:18




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 Re: Hand cranking a WC in reply to Scott in Illinois, 06-27-2006 08:26:05  
If the mag is hot and the carb is okay, put choke on then give it a quarter turn. Take teh choke off and give it another 1/4 of a turn. If all is well it should start.



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old

06-27-2006 08:36:03




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 Re: Hand cranking a WC in reply to Scott in Illinois, 06-27-2006 08:26:05  
Can't help you much since I have had a hand crank Allis in years but I can say. You need to make sure the impulse in the mag is working as it should be. And you also need to have every thing set just right or they can be a pain to start. This is how I do my 1935 JD-B ya differant tractor company but all engines work the same or at least very close. I turn the engine over so all the cylinder have fired once and have it choked. Then I unchoke it and most of the time it starts with 2 or 3 more full turns of the crank which on a JD is the flywheel

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