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Weight rating for AC WD? Hydraulic question too.

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Will Herring

05-02-2006 21:58:43




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In decent condition, how much "pulling power" do I have at my disposal for moving stuff? I know I seem to be beating a dead horse with this log pulling stuff, but the logs I'm looking at pulling are about 10' to 12' long and 6 to 8 inches in diameter. I assume that this is well within what the tractor can pull.

Also, any way to test if my hydraulic system hoses are shot or not without connecting the tractor to an implement... Or will I just have to bite the bullet and do it?

Thanks for the help guys, you've been handy in the past.

Finally got my shifter fixed after a few months thanks to you guys. At least I was able to manually shift gears with a long handled screw driver to get it out of the field and back to the shed until then.

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bob guthrie

05-04-2006 12:21:21




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 Re: Weight rating for AC WD? Hydraulic question to in reply to Will Herring, 05-02-2006 21:58:43  
I just pulled 30-40 pine trees,,some with a trunk diameter of 16 inches,,,pulled with the draw bar,,back to the creek bottom ,,about 1/4 mile,,with no problem,,,used 1st or 2nd gear and on some 3rd gear. I pulled the whole tree in most cases and then cut them back at the woods.



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Will Herring

05-04-2006 13:31:05




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 Re: Weight rating for AC WD? Hydraulic question to in reply to bob guthrie, 05-04-2006 12:21:21  
I never realized how much power a tractor had... Wow.



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wdtom

05-03-2006 18:35:45




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 Re: Weight rating for AC WD? Hydraulic question to in reply to Will Herring, 05-02-2006 21:58:43  
I have read all the posts and pretty much agree, I just want to add this. You can pull a LOT more than you are planning on. The lift arms will lift a LOT more than you are planning on. BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO EVER BE PULLING WITH THE LIFT ARMS. They are too hige and if you pull with them you may well flip the tractor ofer backwards onto you. This could happen if you are pullng with a chian hooked to the drawbar, and lifting the end of the log up with the lift arms, and the pulling chain slips off of the log or comes loos from the drawbar. Now you are pulling with the lift arms, and if the log gets stuck you are in trouble. Be carefull. As for how much can you pull with a WD, well mine pulled 5500 lbs on a stone boat with a 5' long chain last summer, getting me first in an antique pull. That's a fairly large log.

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Will Herring

05-03-2006 18:53:34




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 Re: Weight rating for AC WD? Hydraulic question to in reply to wdtom, 05-03-2006 18:35:45  
Wow... That's massive. I always hear that WD's and WD 45's have insanely powerful pulling power and hydraulic systems.

I never lift my logs before I pull 'em. I more or less just drag them, since they're all rotting apart and have curved ends and fall apart on the way usually.



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Charlie Free

05-03-2006 17:25:27




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 Re: Weight rating for AC WD? Hydraulic question to in reply to Will Herring, 05-02-2006 21:58:43  
Well, I"m no tractor expert, but I am careful. My WD hydraulics using a boom pole, will pick up a log 16" in diameter, and 15" + feet long. I lift them clear in order to get over part of the yard I dont want to drag a log over. I"ll stabilize the log by lifting in the center and securing the front half to the draw bar. The real limit seems to be in how light the front end gets. Just keep that left foot on the clutch and get your reaction time down to pushing that thing home as soon as the front end lifts. I know a couple old timers (80 +) who have told me that it is not the roll over on an imbankment with the tricycle front end that got most people, it was the flip over when that plow or whatever hit the immovable object.

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Will Herring

05-03-2006 18:08:35




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 Re: Weight rating for AC WD? Hydraulic question to in reply to Charlie Free, 05-03-2006 17:25:27  
Yeah, those plows will pick the front end up easily if lifted too fast. Sounds like I'll be okay with what I'm doing then, as long as I have a good log chain and watch myself. I always keep my foot on the clutch just in case.



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JMS/MN

05-03-2006 19:36:14




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 Re: Weight rating for AC WD? Hydraulic question to in reply to Will Herring, 05-03-2006 18:08:35  
You'd be better off to keep your hand on the hand clutch instead of using the foot clutch. When you get rattled you might slip your foot off the clutch and stop nothing.



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Will Herring

05-03-2006 19:51:15




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 Re: Weight rating for AC WD? Hydraulic question to in reply to JMS/MN, 05-03-2006 19:36:14  
That too. I'll try and cover all my bases with the clutch, brakes, and hand clutch.



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Dakota Dave

05-03-2006 14:21:47




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 Re: Weight rating for AC WD? Hydraulic question to in reply to Will Herring, 05-02-2006 21:58:43  
Hook the Log short to the Tractor And Make sure you pull only from the drawbar. I Pull logs that size Three at a time with a C without a problem. If you put your Hydraulic control in the full up position when the Rams reach full up the Hydraulic hoses will have full pressure on them. If they dont leak then Thier not going to leak. If they look Ratty on the outside It may be time to change them.

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Will Herring

05-03-2006 14:45:41




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 Re: Weight rating for AC WD? Hydraulic question to in reply to Dakota Dave, 05-03-2006 14:21:47  
The outside of the hoses near the bottom of the tractor show signs of external wear, and the arms are frozen up because of rust... But when I tested the hydraulic system in this manner, no leaks occured. So I should be good then? Sweet.

Yeah, I'm not intending to move anything TOO huge. I think I should be good.



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Will Herring

05-03-2006 12:52:28




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 Re: Weight rating for AC WD? Hydraulic question to in reply to Will Herring, 05-02-2006 21:58:43  
Well, basically I just use a log chain to hook up to the tree, and am pulling off a pretty smooth grade. Not big slopes or hills, and it's in an open field - so no stumps either. And I always go in first gear.

As for the hydraulics, I want to use a field disc that has wheels but needs the hydraulic system to lift it up and down.



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JMS/MN

05-03-2006 07:13:01




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 Re: Weight rating for AC WD? Hydraulic question to in reply to Will Herring, 05-02-2006 21:58:43  
A human can pull a log 8 inches in diameter by 12 feet long. A horse is stronger than a human. A WD is about 30 horses.



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old

05-03-2006 07:12:18




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 Re: Weight rating for AC WD? Hydraulic question to in reply to Will Herring, 05-02-2006 21:58:43  
Your biggest problem isn't pulling the log but what happens if it digs in or you hit a stump etc. If hooked up in the wrong place or wrong way you can end up with the tractor sitting on top of you, because it flipped over.



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Badly Bent

05-03-2006 05:48:27




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 Re: Weight rating for AC WD? Hydraulic question to in reply to Will Herring, 05-02-2006 21:58:43  
The hydraulic system on the WD is a high pressure, low volume system. The hoses are likely to look pretty bad if they've been on there a while. It's probably cheap insurance to replace them.

As for pulling logs with the tractor; I've pulled several logs (and in fact the entire tree) that were larger than what you've suggested, using my WD. Be careful, though. Don't hook to anything other than the drawbar or you're asking for trouble. Also, if you decide to use the hydraulics to lift the front of the log somehow you're increasing the chances of having the tractor lift the front end off the ground and right back on top of you. The big word here is CAUTION.
Tim

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Brad W Wi

05-03-2006 04:22:46




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 Re: Weight rating for AC WD? Hydraulic question to in reply to Will Herring, 05-02-2006 21:58:43  
Will, I use my WD for skidding out logs. I'm generally pulling longer and larger than what you said you are, and I have no trouble at all. I am going to make a lift for my 3pt. to get the front of the log off the ground. The trouble I have is pulling a log and hitting a stump.Dead stop. I do have filled tires on mine as well as 1 rear wheel weight. The traction helps. Is it nessary? I don't know, but it don't hurt either. With the lift I'm making I might have to put on my front weights for steering.

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