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Front Support Bolt removal WD (narrow front)

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DBurris

04-17-2006 21:03:19




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I bought a 1949 WD that has set outside most of its life.Previous owner had some type of blade bolted and later welded to the tractor rails up front(removed before I got it).I have one bolt on each side holding the rail to the front support,three bolts on each side are broke off inside the support!! I have drilled thru the broken bolt shot rust loosenener inside for 2 weeks cant budge them with my easyout!! Would torch heat help? Any other suggestions thanks

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DBurris

04-18-2006 20:06:11




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 Re: Front Support Bolt removal WD (narrow front) in reply to DBurris, 04-17-2006 21:03:19  
Thanks for the great input.I got the left rail off tonite (1 stud sticks out about1/8 inch, 2 studs broke off about 3/16 inch inside casting).I have all of them drilled out for past 2 wks and have kept spraying rust eater etc into each drilled hole every day.NO LUCK YET LOL. I'll try the torch/candle wax tomorrow nite. thanks again for the help. d burris



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Texas Denny

04-18-2006 08:58:50




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 Re: Front Support Bolt removal WD (narrow front) in reply to DBurris, 04-17-2006 21:03:19  
I do not recommend using an easy out. An easy out may break the casting and rarely works anyway.

I had a WD with 6 bolts broken. I pulled the front end and welded studs to the broken bolts. I used the studs to back them out. I used a wire feed on full power. If you are a good welder, you may be able to do this with a stick welder. The heat of the welding loosened the rust. The welding focused the heat on the bolt rather than the casting.

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JMS/MN

04-18-2006 13:21:35




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 Re: Front Support Bolt removal WD (narrow front) in reply to Texas Denny, 04-18-2006 08:58:50  
TD- here's the reason I like to heat the casting- I can put more btu's into the loosening job, since the casting heats slower. If I concentrate on the bolt, it gets red very quickly, although very little heat has been applied. I find that technique especially useful with manifold bolts- typically reduced in size because of rust- they get red hot in a matter of seconds, before the rust lets go.

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JMS/MN

04-18-2006 05:44:56




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 Re: Front Support Bolt removal WD (narrow front) in reply to DBurris, 04-17-2006 21:03:19  
After heating with an acetylene torch, as it cools, apply some candlewax. It flows between the threads and helps to loosen the bolt. Might have to drill them out. You say they are broken off inside the support- but if you removed the side rail, (or removed the casting from between the rails) would they be flush? Then you could try welding a nut to the bolt and turning it out. Could also apply heat to the casting with the rail removed.

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