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PTO speeds 3pt.hitch pic

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Greg Weinfurtne

04-13-2006 13:01:28




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Hi all, I have a Allis Chalmers C model and was wondering what the speed ratio of the PTO wheels are. (I'm setting up a mowing deck and need to find pulley sizes.)

There is the flat belt drive on the side and a spline shaft coming out the back. If the engine speed is 1500 rpm, what is the rpms of the flat belt drive? Rpms of the Spline drive?

I think the mower needs about 3200 Rpm, does that sound right? It has 3 each of 21 inch blades. You can see the belt and spline in the picture where I am building a 3 pt hitch.

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Keith-OR

04-16-2006 10:44:29




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 Re: PTO speeds 3pt.hitch pic in reply to Greg Weinfurtner, 04-13-2006 13:01:28  
Greg, nice looking setup, but looks like you made the same mistake that I did, made lift arms too long. If I had it to do all over would shorten them up a few inches.

Here is what mine looked like, built these 3 years ago.I have since sold tractor. Last time I seen My C it was sitting on a dealers show room floor.

Keith & Shawn

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R acres

05-25-2006 07:21:38




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 Re: PTO speeds 3pt.hitch pic in reply to Keith-OR, 04-16-2006 10:44:29  
Could you please send me this picture? I am attempting this project and am unable to download this picture.

Thanks,

Matt



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Rod (NH)

04-13-2006 14:49:23




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 Re: PTO speeds 3pt.hitch pic in reply to Greg Weinfurtner, 04-13-2006 13:01:28  
Hi Greg,

PTO wheels?? The PTO assembly ratios are the same for both the B and C. The splined PTO shaft runs at 40% of engine speed and the belt pulley shaft runs at 75% of engine speed. If you also want the engine-to-ground speed ratio, you'll need the tooth counts for the transmission gears, the differential and the final drive, along with the rolling radius of your rear tires. The tooth counts for the appropriate gears are listed in the B/C parts book. The transmission and differential ratios are the same for both the B and C. The final drive ratios are different plus the C has different ratios, depending on tractor serial number. Again, the parts book would permit calculating such ratios. That's interesting information and some time when I get a chance, I may work up those numbers and post them on my B web site.

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old

04-13-2006 13:49:40




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 Re: PTO speeds 3pt.hitch pic in reply to Greg Weinfurtner, 04-13-2006 13:01:28  
At about 3/4 trottle the PTO shaft spines around 540 RPM. That speed is standard for almost all tractors.



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Greg Weinfurtner

04-13-2006 13:07:35




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 Re: PTO speeds 3pt.hitch pic in reply to Greg Weinfurtner, 04-13-2006 13:01:28  
Oh, the shafts and 3 pt hitch pic is at:

http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~weinfurt/shafts.JPG



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