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1940 Allis Chalmers B

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Phyllis Dutour

03-20-2006 16:14:06




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Has anyone ever seen an Allis painted red before it was painted Persian Orange? This tractor also has the word "ARROW" in block letters above the screen on the grill. I put 2 pictures of this tractor in the picture gallery yesterday.
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Texas Denny

03-20-2006 20:44:20




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 Re: 1940 Allis Chalmers B in reply to Phyllis Dutour, 03-20-2006 16:14:06  
I think the other responders have covered it accurately. The lettering is not like any Allis lettering that I've ever seen. So my guess is that the word Arrow has to do with a previous owner - nothing to do with a B Allis.

Regarding paint, there sure aren't any rules about what color to paint a tractor. Tractors used in businesses are often painted with company colors and have decals with the company name (Arrow). The one notable exception that I've found is with Oliver. Back in the early 30's when they were changing from Hart Parr to Oliver, they made several tractors with different colors and brought them to functions around the country to get customer input. They finally settled on the green they are noted for. I have one of these that was painted red (1936 Hart Parr Oliver - has both names in raised letter in the castings). The red was so badly faded that I could never match the original color - no way to know what it was other than red. So I painted it Oliver green.

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Dick L

03-21-2006 04:31:34




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 Denny Here Is Trick For You in reply to Texas Denny, 03-20-2006 20:44:20  
To find the actual shade of a color can be done this way. Wash an area of the least faded paint using an SOS pad. Take a rattle can of (clear enamel) and spray lightly on the cleaned area. Take a soft lint free cloth and buff lightly the wet clear enamel untill dry. Make sure it is clear (enamel)



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Dick L

03-20-2006 17:20:31




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 Re: 1940 Allis Chalmers B in reply to Phyllis Dutour, 03-20-2006 16:14:06  
A 60 year old tractor can have all the colors under the sun hidden below the top coat. I have uncovered red, yellow, and blue on the same tractor under an orange of some shade. any color of paint will keep the rust away. Old paint is easy, rusted holes because of lack of paint is a bigger challenge



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Mike S

03-20-2006 16:35:22




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 Re: 1940 Allis Chalmers B in reply to Phyllis Dutour, 03-20-2006 16:14:06  
The red could be primer, I noticed that there is red under the paint on the WD I am tinkering with. It just might be that the tractor was owned by a company named Arrow or it signified something like that. What little I know about AC has been gleaned in the last week, but I could find no reference to a specific tractor given that designation.



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Phyllis Dutour

03-20-2006 17:12:00




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 Re: 1940 Allis Chalmers B in reply to Mike S, 03-20-2006 16:35:22  
Thanks, Mike My husband is leaning toward the ARROW being a company name. It sure has him buffaloed. Phyllis



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Mike S

03-21-2006 15:12:10




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 Re: 1940 Allis Chalmers B in reply to Phyllis Dutour, 03-20-2006 17:12:00  
What made me think that is an older friend of mine worked for a combine company in the early 50's and they did combine work for people during the harvesting and they traveled in several states. My friend said that they painted the hoods with the company name on many of the service tractors (wagon pullers, etc) so that there was no chance of anybody claiming it was theirs since so many farms they visited had similar tractors. They did not do it with the combines since they were the only folks that had them. JAT

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Phyllis Dutour

03-21-2006 15:19:14




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 Re: 1940 Allis Chalmers B in reply to Mike S, 03-21-2006 15:12:10  
Mike, that really sounds like that may be the answer to the "ARROW" on the front of the Allis. Thanks loads. Phyllis



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Mike S

03-21-2006 19:09:15




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 Re: 1940 Allis Chalmers B in reply to Phyllis Dutour, 03-21-2006 15:19:14  
My pleasure, ma'am.



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