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Texas Denny

02-25-2006 07:18:57




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Well, I got the old WC engine back together on Wednesday. She started after turning over at most two times and ran smooth as could be.

The rebuild started because the WC didn't start as easily as I like. It seemed like an easy rebuild - new rings, adjust bearings, lap valves. But it got complicated. The cylinders measured between 4.000 and 4.001 on all measurements. That is good. The bearings were in good to excellent condition. Valves needed attention. I sent the head out for valve grinding (exhaust seats too bad for lapping) and got the estimate of $613. Wow! WC's are barely worth $613. So I told them to send it back to me - no grinding. I turned the valves on my laythe with a carbide cutter. I bought a seat grinding stone from NAPA. I made a fixture for the stone and ground the seats of the exhaust valves (intakes were fine). The exhaust seats came up nice with very little effort. I lapped the valves in and reassembled. Total cost was $18. And the valves work great. Oil pressure is 20 psi all the time - all rpms and all temperatures. Seems like a total success.

Some may remember an earlier post about the pistons. They have about a 7.4:1 compression ratio. Can't wait to get it out and work it a bit.

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D17JIM

02-27-2006 09:28:15




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 Re: WC Allis in reply to Texas Denny, 02-25-2006 07:18:57  
Glad to hear that the old tractor is doing so well. Sounds like you saved some serious $ Sometimes I think todays mechanics don't realize how these old tractors are to be repaired. I've got to fix the oil pan seals front and back be fore painting my 17 this summer. It still purrs like a kitten.



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will Tx.Mn.

02-25-2006 08:18:46




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 Re: WC Allis in reply to Texas Denny, 02-25-2006 07:18:57  
Hi Texas Denny,

it's cool what ya did by yourself,and hard to believe they wanted so much $$ for a valve job, i just bought an Allis Chalmers model B with electric starter,fair tires,and hyd pump,it runs fair, not much oil pressure, but bought it for five hundred bucks,came with plow,and one row cultivator,i thought it was a deal

i am in big D, where are you at Sir?

Regards,

Will



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chalmersbob

02-25-2006 17:08:35




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 Re: WC Allis in reply to will Tx.Mn., 02-25-2006 08:18:46  
you say "not much oil pressure". well, the best you will get is about 15# and the normal is about 12#. idle might drop to 5#.
BOB



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Texas Denny

02-25-2006 08:37:32




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 Re: WC Allis in reply to will Tx.Mn., 02-25-2006 08:18:46  
Will, I live in Leander (north of Austin) and have a small ranch near Goldthwaite.

I friend gave me a C Allis in July of 2004. Wasn't a lot that didn't need repair - engine stuck - no brakes - clutch shot - radiator shot, dismal tires, no drawbar. It took me 9 months but I've got it done. Total cost was $530 which included new tires for the rear and a 3 point hitch for the rear. Send me an email and I'll send you a picture.

I've always had a hankering for a B. Wish someone I knew had one. Maybe if I could just drive one the urge would be satisfied. I've got too many already.

Went up to Glenrose a couple of weeks ago to their tractor show. We went on Friday and I don't guess everyone was there yet. Mostly John Deere's. Venders were setting up. If we do this again, it will have to be on Saturday.

Denny

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Stan(PA)

02-25-2006 11:26:28




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 Re: WC Allis in reply to Texas Denny, 02-25-2006 08:37:32  
"Maybe if I could just drive one the urge would be satisfied."

Denny, I don"t think you"d need to drive one, I think just climbing on would be enough! Maybe I"m just getting old, but getting on and off my B is quite a chore. My Farmall A is sure a pleasure to get aboard, relatively speaking. Maybe there"s a secret that I"m missing? ....Stan



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Texas Denny

02-25-2006 15:56:24




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 Re: WC Allis in reply to Stan(PA), 02-25-2006 11:26:28  
Yes, my C is hard to get on alos but it is much easier than my John Deere MT. The C is made much easier to get on with a step in front of the rear wheel. Even with the step, the MT is still next to impossible.



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