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rboulware

02-24-2006 06:57:37




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I have read in alot of places that the D19 was bad about having a problem slipping out of third gear. What do I do to avide this type of damage if I decide to get one? I tell you I want be useing the tractor for more than 4 hours a week. but during thoes 4 hours it will be doing HARD WORK! to say the least.

I have alot of Clay soil the holds alot of moister but has alot of old tree stumps from where they timbered this tract 5 years ago, so I don't want to do somthing this machine can't do.

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wilman

02-24-2006 13:00:07




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 Re: Allis transmision in reply to rboulware, 02-24-2006 06:57:37  
Just buy the D-19, keep it maintained and use the foot clutch and don't grind any gears and you will have no problems with it. The D-19 is a lot of tractor for the money.

Wil and D-19 owner.



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wilman

02-24-2006 12:59:36




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 Re: Allis transmision in reply to rboulware, 02-24-2006 06:57:37  
Just buy the D-19, keep it maintained and use the foot clutch and don't grind any gears and you will have no problems with it. The D-19 is a lot of tractor for the money.

Wil and D-19 owner.



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John (MO)

02-24-2006 08:52:43




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 Re: Allis transmision in reply to rboulware, 02-24-2006 06:57:37  
JMS is right, don't be shiftless. If you need to change a transmission gear, get your foot into it and DON`T try to change with just the power director in neutral. I don't think the D-19s have transmission problems nearly as much as the smaller tractors. My theory is that these were big tractors in their day and they were opperated by serious farmers. The power director give you 2 speeds in each gear and for most operations the change from low to high, or high to low is all the power/speed change necessary. With the smaller tractors, there were more utility jobs done and the transmission was maybe shifted a lot more. Then of course the WD/WD45 didn't have the power director, just the hand clutch, so more shifting there. I'll admit that I started driving the WD and WD45 before I was big enough to use the foot clutch, so I did everything with the hand clutch. Then later I found if you managed the throttle just right, you didn't need either clutch. Now I'm sure if I had ever got caught doing that, I wouldn't have had needed the seat on that tractor either, cause I wouldn't have been able to set down. I don't recall that we ever had any transmission problems, but maybe it was just because dad sent me to college so I wouldn't tear his stuff up. I'm sure I didn't do the equipment any good back then.

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Hurst

02-24-2006 08:46:51




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 Re: Allis transmision in reply to rboulware, 02-24-2006 06:57:37  
I don't know how big of stumps you are talking about, but most plows will not go through those, and if they do, it will be a long and hard pull. That sounds like something I would hire someone to clear out with a bull dozer first if they are any larger than about 3 inches in diameter. Plowing through stumps will put a lot of strain on any tractor and plow, no matter what the brand. Plows are made to go through dirt, not wood. It may be a good idea to sub soil it after getting the stumps out, then give it a winter to loosen the ground up and plow after that. It is possible to plow the ground without subsoiling it, but it will be pretty hard. I would think the 3 bottoms in those conditions would be about all she would want, if she could take that. Good luck.

Hurst

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BCnT

02-24-2006 08:16:13




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 Re: Allis transmision in reply to rboulware, 02-24-2006 06:57:37  
like already said...shift properly and if youre gonna be plowing stumps out i doubt seriously third gear is where you wanna be...slow and easy to lessen shock on tools and drivetrain



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rboulware

02-24-2006 08:40:51




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 Re: Allis transmision in reply to BCnT, 02-24-2006 08:16:13  
dis reguard that previous post I ment a long time in first gear



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rboulware

02-24-2006 08:39:46




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 Re: Allis transmision in reply to BCnT, 02-24-2006 08:16:13  
is it good to run the machine a long time in third gear?



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rboulware

02-24-2006 07:48:01




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 Re: Allis transmision in reply to rboulware, 02-24-2006 06:57:37  
Any one else?



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JMS/MN

02-24-2006 07:36:02




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 Re: Allis transmision in reply to rboulware, 02-24-2006 06:57:37  
Shift properly. Old tractors do not have synchronized transmissions- push in the foot clutch, WAIT until the clutch stops motion, then shift. Trannies pop out of gear because people grind gears while shifting. Shiftless people are more prone to doing that.



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