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About the AC-B's?

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Hossman

02-22-2006 17:47:08




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Could anyone tell me if the little B's had hydrolics, I know some did and some didnt but didnt know what year they had em or if they was just some kinda ad ons that folks did. I am thinkin of adding one to the AC collection if I can find a good one to restore, and with all the dif. models that were made it is gittin a little confusin tryin to research them. Thanks alot for any input, Hoss




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DaveInMI

02-24-2006 02:37:16




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 Re: About the AC-B's? in reply to Hossman, 02-22-2006 17:47:08  
My '48 B has factory hydraulics. It has a selector valve to operate either the right or left hydraulic ram. The set up is part of right/left (no headland-deadfurrow) plow. How common is that?



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D13

02-23-2006 17:47:59




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 Re: About the AC-B's? in reply to Hossman, 02-22-2006 17:47:08  
Later B's were available with hydraulics. There are some quirks with it.

The factory hydo is a plunger pump driven from cams off the PTO shaft. This is part of the belt/PTO power unit. You can tell if one is capable of accepting the pump by the presence of the opening on the right side of the power unit. The pump is a simple bolt on if the hole is present. If no hole, but have PTO, need to swap housings. If have no power unit, need to install one, be sure to get the slifing grar and bearing race for the trans output shaft. Rebuilt pumps are about $250 and a hydro capable power unit is about $200, might get lucky and find the whole thing used for $350.

Even if you have one, these are not live power, and they ar linked to the PTO. So, to lift your mower, it must be running! To lift you plow when you get stuck, need to shift to neutral, then let out clutch and lift! They produce little volume but nice pressure, so son't try to run a big cylinder with them, you'll drain the reservoir and burn up the pump.

On my Dad's B, took off the pump and made a custom GM power steering pump setup to get continuous hydraulics.

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Hossman

02-23-2006 17:47:09




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 Re: About the AC-B's? in reply to Hossman, 02-22-2006 17:47:08  
Fellows, Thanks so much for the info, was a big help!Will now staet the search for a "little" Allis as I think one would be a lot of fun to restore and real handy for mowin chores.Thanks again!



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Clay in MI

02-22-2006 18:43:43




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 Re: About the AC-B's? in reply to Hossman, 02-22-2006 17:47:08  
There is an interesting series of articles on "the little Allises" on this site at the link below. The table of contents doesn't seem to work but you can access different chapters by changing the page number in the web address. You might find information to help your decision. My 50 B didn't come with hydraulics but I was able to get a used pump and just bolt it on.

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Dick L

02-22-2006 18:06:27




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 Re: About the AC-B's? in reply to Hossman, 02-22-2006 17:47:08  
I have a 1938 and a 1939 with power takeoffs. both were without the hydraulic pumps. The 1938 was not drilled and taped for he hydraulic pump to bolt fast. The 1939 was drilled and taped and had a cover bolted on. It had the cam inside. The pump would have bolted on and worked. I am not sure of when and what other than that.



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