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Allis Chalmer D19

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rboulware

02-17-2006 14:32:32




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I have a question which is more reliable a Gas or the diesel version of this tractor? Also where there any reliability issues to start with on this tractor?

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no1farmboy1

02-20-2006 18:50:54




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 Re: Allis Chalmer D19 in reply to rboulware, 02-17-2006 14:32:32  
I have owned both and still have the gaser. used to plant with it,6 row no till-5gallons an hour.and run the grinder even more. now it is on utility duty and is a wonderfull tractor to have. in my experiance it dosent really seem to be the load that sucks gas it is the rpm's. but it is day in day out very reliable and low cost hp. and i have seen a few others sell in good shape and never bring over $3500

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Brad-MN

02-17-2006 23:54:17




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 Re: Allis Chalmer D19 in reply to rboulware, 02-17-2006 14:32:32  
I have always been told that the AC D19 was the cheapes HP for the money. They make good power, both the diesels and the gassers. One thing with the gasser is as father always said: "You can drive by a gas station, but only one." The gassers are thirsty to make all that cheap HP.



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rboulware

02-17-2006 21:25:46




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 Re: Allis Chalmer D19 in reply to rboulware, 02-17-2006 14:32:32  
Thanks everyone for your help..
D17 man why do you say diesle all the way?
Any one else with a D19?
HAs any one had experiance with a D21??



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rboulware

02-18-2006 19:03:37




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 Re: Allis Chalmer D19 in reply to rboulware, 02-17-2006 21:25:46  
Thanks every one again for all the good replys...
Here is what I have found...I found a local Turbo Deisel tractor and I also found a Gas tractor as well They are both priced about the same. The gas tractor will have to be shipped here from a LOOOONG WAYS!!! AWAY! While the Deisel is here local. The Gas is at a dealer where they can run a dyno test on it....One they are asking $6,000.00 for it while another they are asking 6,250.00 for it....Now which would you choose and WHY?? Thanks again for your help!!

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Hurst

02-18-2006 19:10:57




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 Re: Allis Chalmer D19 in reply to rboulware, 02-18-2006 19:03:37  
Are both of these tractors restored? that is awfully high for a tractor off the farm. If you can get pictures of them, that may give a better idea, but also, what work has been done to them? That is more important than anything, and also, whether the work has been done correctly. They are great tractors, and if you have to choose one or the other, the diesel, since it is local will be cheaper if it is in the same or better condition than the gas. Shipping a tractor that size aint cheap any more. Good luck

Hurst

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rboulware

02-18-2006 19:35:56




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 Re: Allis Chalmer D19 in reply to Hurst, 02-18-2006 19:10:57  
They do seem a little high don't they? I DO have pictures of the Gas tractor and it looks pretty good...I guess... I am sort of leaning towards the Gas for the simple fact 1. They seem some what easier to work on and 2. I keep hearing about head problems with the desiel that I don't here with the gas. I keep hearing that the gas will use alot of fuel that does not really bother me. But any types of engine problems do.....

Thanks for the help hurst

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Hurst

02-18-2006 20:51:28




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 Re: Allis Chalmer D19 in reply to rboulware, 02-18-2006 19:35:56  
The diesel is better for constant lugging like tillage and brush hogging, while the gasser would probably be better for chores such as spreading manuar, carrying round bales, etc. This would be because it would be easier to start. However, a diesel would not really get worked hard enough to really require a cool down, but a warm up would still be neccessary and a short cool down right before shutting down would be a good idea, but not as long as normal cool downs. The problem with the heads were that they had no form of cooling. Most diesels have antifreeze running through the heads to keep them relatively the same tempterature as the block, but on the diesels, I assume the heads get hotter than the block and if not allowed to cool down, they would warp from uneven cooling. I would go with the once closest just because you can go out and drive it around and test it for any mechanical faults. check for popping out of gear and power director popping out and any odd noises or feels. About simplicity, diesels, minus the injection pump, which I have never had any problems with besides needing a rebuild on one of our fords. Diesels are a lot simpler. They have no ignition system to worry about keeping up and going. Also, you don't need to change spark plugs on a diesel or wires. However, with that said, if a diesel does need somthing beyond a minor repair or maintenance, they can be a little more complex, since a lot of the stuff needs specialist's attention to be repaired correctly. For price, I would not give over 4500 for a farm tractor diesel 19. Farm tractor means you can take it home and start plowing with her. Maybe a little more if she was an exceptional farm tractor, like one that may have had some major work done like an engine overhaul, or injection pump and injector overhaul. If it has any new expensive parts, like new tires, that would make me consider a little more. For a gasser, I would not give more than 3000, maybe 3500. again, new parts or work done would boost that max price some if it is an exeptional work tractor. If you have any more questions feel free to post or e-mail. I don't think you can go wrong if they are both well cared for tractors. Easy way to figure out is to look at the fluids in the tractor, check out the other equipment and the facility. If the other stuff looks neglected, chances are the 19 was too unless it was like his grandpas tractor or something else really unlikely. Good luck

Hurst

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rboulware

02-19-2006 05:38:10




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 Re: Allis Chalmer D19 in reply to Hurst, 02-18-2006 20:51:28  
WOW!!! good post!!! lots of Help here! I am leaning towards a gas right now in the D19 now I am also looking at a deere 4020 or 3020 I would go in a diesel in one of these.

From what I read the D19 Gas version does NOT have the problem with heads cracking do you find that to be true as well?



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Hurst

02-19-2006 07:09:41




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 Re: Allis Chalmer D19 in reply to rboulware, 02-19-2006 05:38:10  
I personally have never heard of any problems with a D19 gas head. Try www(dot)allischalmer(dot)com and go to the forum over there. There are quite a few people who are really good with the 262s and should be able to help you from first hand experience with these tractors. Good luck in choosing. I think you will really like a D19 over a deere, but that is just me :D

Hurst



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Hurst

02-18-2006 10:38:32




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 Re: Allis Chalmer D19 in reply to rboulware, 02-17-2006 21:25:46  
If you have found a D21, then you better grab that tractor if you want it and the price is alright, becasue D21s are one of the most sought after allis tractors out there. There are a lot of people who want these tractors, but only so many avalible. I think for a chore tractor, the D19 is as big as you want to go. I had a D17 diesel and my dad sold it because of head gasket problems, but apparently it was restored completely and is running great (go figure lol). Just don't over heat the diesel and be ready to have someone catch you when you go to get parts for that motor, as they are either not avalible or very pricy. The overhaul kits are extremely pricey for the engine and it takes a very good mechanic to work on one of these motors. Also, if you need head work done on a diesel, they can be pricy. If you find a good one and take care of it, then it will serve you well, but if you get a painted over problem child, be ready for some big bills. Same with the tranny from what I have seen in research for parts.

Hurst

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wilman

02-17-2006 20:08:22




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 Re: Allis Chalmer D19 in reply to rboulware, 02-17-2006 14:32:32  
I have a D-19 gas and love it. People tend to think that because it is a 6 cylinder gas, it is thirsty but I have been told that it is less thirsty than some of the competitions 6 cylinders that came out at the same time. I have never noticed it as being very thirsty on gas. I think both the diesel and the gas are very reliable tractors and the diesel owners enjoy their tractor as much as the gas owners do. Biggest problems I have heard about the diesels is that you need to properly warm them up and then let them cool down properly or you will crack the heads. The D-19 diesel was the first factory turbo-charged tractor sold. Another thing to look out for is the transmission in both the gas or diesel version. Make sure that it doesn"t pop out of any gears under a load or going down hill. D-19"s have good power and are one of the cheapest tractors around for their horsepower, but don"t tell everyone because the price will go up LOL

Wil

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RandyN

02-17-2006 16:51:36




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 Re: Allis Chalmer D19 in reply to rboulware, 02-17-2006 14:32:32  
I am completely speaking out of school, because I've never had, nor used, a D-19...but I would think the gas version would be very thirsty...especially if one did tillage with it.

RandyN



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D17 man

02-17-2006 16:32:57




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 Re: Allis Chalmer D19 in reply to rboulware, 02-17-2006 14:32:32  
DIESEL ALL THE WAY !!!!! !!



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