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mike smith

01-20-2006 03:24:01




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Picked up a wd with front end loader. I think its made by new idea from pictures I've seen of various loaders. The problem is that the loader will not lift. I checked the fluids they are ok. The cylinders leak alittle from the top seals but the fluid don't gosh out. Any help on troubleshooting would help. Thanks, Mark




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Kris Gamble

01-20-2006 09:34:56




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 Re: front end loader in reply to mike smith, 01-20-2006 03:24:01  
Another loader question;

I am restoring a ford 2000 industrial with a Davis model 101A loader.
The loader has a two spool valve that lifts the frame with two cylinders from common valve and lifts the bucket with the other valve.

It will lift but slowly falls when valve goes back to center. I took the valves apart and there are no o-ring seals to replace only the metal valve parts. The internal wear in the valve parts doesn't look to bad. Could the leak be in the cylinders that cause the loader frame to slowly fall or any other cheap fix? The valve was made by Cessna I have been told. It would appear that to rebuild the valve would get pretty involved with machine work.

Thanks for any suggestions

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JMS/MN

01-21-2006 07:26:17




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 Re: front end loader in reply to Kris Gamble, 01-20-2006 09:34:56  
Could it be a 'Cross" valve? I understand there is no repairing them- maybe Cessna is the same. Replacement is the only option.



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BCnT

01-20-2006 07:39:30




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 Re: front end loader in reply to mike smith, 01-20-2006 03:24:01  
sounds like a weak pump...will the loader lift its own weight or wont lift a load?



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JMS/MN

01-21-2006 10:59:48




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 Re: front end loader in reply to BCnT, 01-20-2006 07:39:30  
The pump might be ok, but a relief valve stuck open, letting oil bypass back to the reservoir. Wouldn't throw the pump away yet- could be dirt holding the valve open a squinch!



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