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B Hydraulics ?

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Rod(NH)

01-14-2006 08:46:47




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I'm in the process of adding stock hydraulics to my '42B. It never had that fuctionality but the PTO housing is all set up for adding a pump and the PTO shaft (older 1-1/8 dia) has the cam lobes on it. I have a stock pump along with the standard operating lever. The parts manual is not that good about showing exactly how the operating lever attaches to the tractor. It appears that it attaches to the seat frame with a couple of clips. I am not sure of the orientation of the lever or just where it attaches to the seat frame. If anyone could describe the arrangement or even post a picture, that would be very much appreciated.

I also would like any recommendations for flushing out the transmission/differential/PTO cavity prior to filling with fresh oil. The lube that's in there is SAE 85/90 that I put in years ago. I don't think Dad ever replaced that lube so it's been done only once since the tractor was new. I plan to use Amalie "All-Trac 245" combination hydraulic/transmission fluid - SAE 10W-20 as the replacement lube. I want to flush out any crud that exists in the cavity before installing the new fluid. I have read that adding kerosine and running the tractor and PTO for a while and draining will do the job. I am interested as to what anyone might think of that or has any other suggestions for preparations prior to adding the pump.

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Rod (NH)

01-15-2006 05:41:59




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 Re: B Hydraulics ? in reply to Rod(NH), 01-14-2006 08:46:47  
Thanks guys. Ken, the pic helped a lot to show the orientation and proximity to the fender. I am assuming that the manual lift lever, if used, will just pass between the hydraulic pump lever and the fender when down in the full lift position. Do you recall that to be true?



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Ken/Wa

01-15-2006 08:17:10




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 Re: B Hydraulics ? in reply to Rod (NH), 01-15-2006 05:41:59  
Yes, that is right.



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steve(ill)

01-14-2006 17:57:18




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 Re: B Hydraulics ? in reply to Rod(NH), 01-14-2006 08:46:47  
i like the universal- hydraulic/trans fluid--- good stuff. mine had 90 wt in it before. i drained overnight. put in 8 quarts of hytrans, ran for several hours, then drained and refilled again. then change once every 5 years.



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Wen/Wa

01-14-2006 13:30:18




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 Re: B Hydraulics ? in reply to Rod(NH), 01-14-2006 08:46:47  
Hi Rod!
This is the same picture as before, and not that good, but you can see the hydralic lever on the right side of the seat frame, and the linkage going down. (If you are sitting in the seat) I wish the tractor was closer, I would take a close-up of the attachment of it. I can not remember exactly.

As far as the fluid, I flushed mine out, and put in 20 wt non detergent. It is not easy to find, but is not that expensive. They still use it in some airplanes I was told. I had some so called expert tell me that the modern stuff has something in the oil that will eat the brass bushings in the old equipment. I do not know if it is true for sure, but I put in the non detergent 20 wt, and it works.

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JMS/MN

01-14-2006 13:17:49




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 Re: B Hydraulics ? in reply to Rod(NH), 01-14-2006 08:46:47  
If it's like the Model C, the manual says this: The control lever is mounted at right hand end of front seat frame angle. Adjust the bearing clips until they form a good bearing and tighten the bolts. Install the cotter pins through control lever on the outside of bearing clips to keep the lever located properly. From what I can see of the clips, the curve of the clip that holds the rod faces up.

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