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Sloroll

01-13-2006 03:23:36




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Any one know how many United tractors were built or have a serial number breakdown?




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JMS/MN

01-13-2006 08:33:37




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 Re: United Tractors in reply to Sloroll, 01-13-2006 03:23:36  
Dean's book- Allis-Chalmers Tractors and Crawlers. Pg. 37- shows annual production from 1929-1950/52 for Model United and U production history, including serial numbers. Post a number and I'll look it up for you.



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Sloroll

01-13-2006 10:53:58




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 Re: United Tractors in reply to JMS/MN, 01-13-2006 08:33:37  
#149 Allis bought out United in late 29 or 30 I believe, but I didn't know if the serial numbers were the same. Did Allis continue with consecutive numbers after United was bought or start with their own when they aquired United and changed the tractors name?

Thanks for the help. I need to find one of those books!



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JMS/MN

01-14-2006 08:30:16




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 Re: United Tractors in reply to Sloroll, 01-13-2006 10:53:58  
1929- serial numbers 1-1974. Serial numbers are consecutive through year 1944, '45 and '46 are not found, '47-'50 has conflicts with numbers, production ended in '52.



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Doug in IL

01-13-2006 17:27:20




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 Re: United Tractors in reply to Sloroll, 01-13-2006 10:53:58  
Allis never really bought out United. Allis produced the United {U} tractor for United under contract. When United went bankrupt, Allis just continued to produce the tractor. Serial numbers were consecutive from the beginning of production. Allis built the tractors for both the United concern and their own dealers. I have never seen a serial number breakdown that identifies an Allis sold tractor from a United sold one. It seems they were just run down the line together some receiving United identification, and some receiving Allis Chalmers indentification. One book I have says the United U was sold for 3 years. 1929 production was 1962 tractors, 1930 4579 tractors, 1931 707 tractors. That would be the total production of tractors for those years. It says after that, they were just called U tractors.

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Doug in IL

01-13-2006 17:39:21




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 Re: United Tractors in reply to Doug in IL, 01-13-2006 17:27:20  
Sloroll, one other thing. I think the earliest tractors may all have been indentified as a "United" on the top of the radiator, regardless of who sold it. But, I don't know that for sure. Later on that was changed, as they stared to use a radiator marked like the one you have.



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Sloroll

01-13-2006 19:11:47




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 Re: United Tractors in reply to Doug in IL, 01-13-2006 17:39:21  
Thanks Doug, what I have bought looks strangely like what you got from me (really a big dejavu)but one is United. You may have to coach me through on this one. If I can get it done it will look great next to the U I got from you. The parts tractor is a 30 U so keep me in mind if you need something. I got a good carb now. I really like that old U. Bill



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Doug in IL

01-14-2006 06:43:55




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 Re: United Tractors in reply to Sloroll, 01-13-2006 19:11:47  
Bill, it sounds like you are cornering the market on those old U's! LOL If I can be of any help to you, let me know.



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Sloroll

01-14-2006 08:04:03




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 Re: United Tractors in reply to Doug in IL, 01-14-2006 06:43:55  
When the smoke clears I will have a United, Your old U a 20-35 and a continental UC... at least that is the plan



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