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Allis B Sickle Forward Mounting Bolts

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Bill Robbins

01-02-2006 18:20:43




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Greetings,

I just picked up a B with a currently detached sickle bar mower and was looking at what needs to be done to get it working. The prev. owner had taken the mower off, but left the large forward mounting bolts screwed just hand tight a few threads in place into the frame. I went to run one in and out just to convince myself that it was OK but I found it surprisingly tight, to the point where I suspect it may not be the right size (or its been cross-threaded before somehow). Also, looking at the bolts close-up, the threads almost appear squared off v. the V-shape that I"m used to seeing. Anyone have the specs on these bolts? I"m an Allis newbie so maybe this is how they all are, just want to be sure before I do some serious torquing. Thanks, Bill

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Ted in NE OHSeifert

01-06-2006 07:34:47




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 Re: Allis B Sickle Forward Mounting Bolts in reply to Bill Robbins, 01-02-2006 18:20:43  
If the bolts into the torque tube are too long they will hit the flywheel and then you will wonder why the engine won't turn over.



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wdtom

01-03-2006 17:45:50




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 Re: Allis B Sickle Forward Mounting Bolts in reply to Bill Robbins, 01-02-2006 18:20:43  
I always like to use the longest capscrew I can to get the maximum thread engagement for strength and to distribute the load over more metal. However you have to be carefull not to bottom out the capscrew. The capscrews in the bellhousing that hold the mower on will bottom out on the flywheel and you will lock up the engine if they are too long. No, I didn't do this, but it did happen on the farm where I spent a lot of time when I was a kid.

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Rod (NH)

01-02-2006 19:55:12




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 Re: Allis B Sickle Forward Mounting Bolts in reply to Bill Robbins, 01-02-2006 18:20:43  
Hi Bill,

If you are talking the four bolts that are inserted into tapped holes in the torque tube, those are 5/8"-11 UNC x 1-1/4" long. At least they were for the 1942 model year. I know my '42B is original in that respect. The bolts should not be tight in the holes. It sounds like you may have some bolts or holes with buggered threads. I suggest you verify the 5/8 size, chase the holes with the correct tap and get new bolts. You also need to be careful that any bolts are not too long. It's too easy to run smack dab into the flywheel.

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Bill Robbins

01-03-2006 03:02:09




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 Re: Allis B Sickle Forward Mounting Bolts in reply to Rod (NH), 01-02-2006 19:55:12  
Thanks, Rod, BTW mine"s a 47 model. Gonna get some new bolts with good threads and try them tomorrow.



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Chris (OR)

01-02-2006 18:29:54




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 Re: Allis B Sickle Forward Mounting Bolts in reply to Bill Robbins, 01-02-2006 18:20:43  
Bill-

I am in the process of bolting mine up for the first time (see:>Link

Best of luck with your new project...

Chris
Scappoose Oregon

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Bill Robbins

01-02-2006 18:36:43




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 Re: Allis B Sickle Forward Mounting Bolts in reply to Chris (OR), 01-02-2006 18:29:54  
Chris,

Thanks very much, that"s what I thought I measured, I"ll pick up some new bolts and chase the threads out and see how that works ...



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