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What can you tell me about a C?

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Jim.UT

12-30-2005 16:58:42




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I just found an Allis-Chalmers C for $750. Said to run good but needs restored. I have not seen it yet. What's the market price for a restorable C in your area? What should I look for when I go see it?

I'm pretty good at spotting a deal on a Ford tractor from the 40's or 50's but I'm completely stupid on other colors. I'm looking to branch out!




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Brad Wright of MO

01-13-2006 17:03:54




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 Re: What can you tell me about a C? in reply to Jim.UT, 12-30-2005 16:58:42  
Heres a data sheet if this helps.

Manufactured: 1940 - 1949 Total built: 84,030 Factory: West Allis, WI Cost: (US Dollars) $1200 (1949) Power: Drawbar (HP): 12.6 PTO (HP): 18.82 Plows: 2 Engine: Manufacturer: Allis Chalmers Fuel: distillate Type: vertical I-head Cylinders: 4 Bore/Stroke (inches): 3.375x3.50 Displacement (ci): 125.2 Compression: 4.75:1 Rated RPMs: 1500 Torque (ft-lbs): Firing order: Oil capacity (qts): Engine: Manufacturer: Allis-Chalmers Fuel: gasoline Cylinders: 4 Bore/Stroke (inches): 3.375x5.00 Displacement (ci): 125.2 Compression: 5.75:1 Rated RPMs: 1500 Torque (ft-lbs): Firing order: Oil capacity (qts): Transmission: Type: sliding gear Forward: 3 Reverse: 1 Capacity: Fuel (Gal): 13 Cooling (Qt): 8 Power Take-off (PTO): Type: transmission Rear speed (RPM): 560 Tires: Ag front: 4.00-15 Ag rear: 9.00-24 Dimensions: Weight (pounds): 2,500 Wheelbase (inches): 77 Length (inches): 114 Width (inches): 68.5 Height (inches): 63 Ground clearance (inches): Electrical: Battery volts: Ground: Battery cold-cranking amps: Alternator amps: Nebraska Test: Test Number: 363 Test Date: October 1940 Engine: distillate Belt HP: 19.4 Drawbar HP: 16 Max pull (pounds): 1,878 Nebraska Test: Test Number: 364 Test Date: October 1940 Engine: gasoline Belt HP: 23.3 Drawbar HP: 18.4 Max pull (pounds): 2,206 Serial Numbers: Location: On top of transmission case, behind shift lever 1940 1 1941 112 1942 12389 1943 18782 1944 23908 1945 30695 1946 36378 1947 39168 1948 51515 1949 68281 1950 80518

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RandyN

12-30-2005 18:19:46




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 Re: What can you tell me about a C? in reply to Jim.UT, 12-30-2005 16:58:42  
A good running C with sickle mower for $750 would be a decent buy here in Missouri. The sickle mowers were a belly-mount.

The C's, in my opinion, are wonderful little tractors. They are, essentially, the two-row version of the B's. They are very easy to work on and parts are readily available for them. I have one that is my keeper after having owned several other tractors...it all boils down to what you like. One thing I really like is that back rest....it hits at just the right spot, too!

One thing to look for on the C's is whether it has really sloppy steering. There are three places for steering to get sloppy on a C...the pedestal, the steering gear box, and the radius rod. It's not a big deal to take the slop out, but it does take some desire to do it if you have to do some overhauling. I'm in the process of rebuilding my steering box and pedestal this winter. To me, it's fun and a great learning experience...and not hard to do.

Other than that, it's the usual old-tractor stuff to look for. At least I don't know of any other "particular" things to look for on them.

3-point hitches did not come with them, but they are easy to make or aftermarket hitches are available. You would need the hydraulic pump to run the ram to use a three-point, but if it doesn't have one they are pretty common to get hold of.

Good luck, and great buy if that sickle mower works okay!

RandyN

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Eldon (WA)

12-30-2005 19:06:12




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 Re: What can you tell me about a C? in reply to RandyN, 12-30-2005 18:19:46  
The #3 rear semi-mount mower was also sold for the model C and bolted to the drawbar with a silly wheel on the back.....probably worth more than a belly mower.



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steve(ill)

12-30-2005 18:08:11




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 Re: What can you tell me about a C? in reply to Jim.UT, 12-30-2005 16:58:42  
$750 is decent price for a C. tractor has no 3 point so normally the sickel is belly mount with drive off the rear pto. --- look for hydrualic pump on right rear corner of the pto box, that is a plus. electric starter is a plus.-- look at normal stuff, they normally dont jump out of gear, but look for binding in the lever. might be some leaking around the front and rear crank seal, and final drive axle seals.-- main C trouble is slop in the steering gear box, the arm ball joints, or the pedistol box under the radiator.--- basiccally, just see how it runs.

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Jim.UT

12-30-2005 17:01:10




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 Forgot to mention..... in reply to Jim.UT, 12-30-2005 16:58:42  
It also comes with a sickle mower. I assume that would be a belly mount? Or would this have a 3 point hitch?

Thanks.



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Dick L

12-30-2005 18:12:24




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 Re: Forgot to mention..... in reply to Jim.UT, 12-30-2005 17:01:10  
If it runs good and I wanted a tractor like the C, I would buy it. I have paid almost that for non running C"s. 3 point would be after market and I would also assume that it was a belly mount.



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