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WD Shifter Problems

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GLENN BAHR

12-26-2005 11:08:17




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I cannot get this tractor to shift into reverse.This is what I have done so far. the slots on the shifter were oversize to the width of the pins.I had the slots welded then I remachined the slots, an the end of the shifter. It seems like a good fit not much play.When I put the shifter housing back on. I can shift in some gears but not reverse.When the housing is off I put the 2 collars in the middle as to not engage on the splines but the lower collar takeing the longer fork I am pushing it to the far right as not to engage in the gear.When I put the housing on I make sure the shifter rails are lined up. I need help. Thanks Glenn

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Dp4kids

03-14-2006 18:20:08




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 Re: WD Shifter Problems in reply to GLENN BAHR, 12-26-2005 11:08:17  
I just finished putting a a better shifting tower back on my WD45. Take the gear shift out. Put a block of wood to hold the two sq guides. You do not want them to fall into the transmission.
1. Put the shifting forks in reverse position. The two short forks are on the outside of the long reverse fork. lock the clutch pedal down. Move your transmisson gears to match the shift forks. The reverse gear will be in the middle. This puts your transmission in reverse. Note the reverse gear will be engaged with gear that has the collar toward the rear of your tractor.

2. Place the shifting tower back on the transmission. Hold the long fork with a finger toward you as you line up the two short shifting forks with the two collars on the top of the transmission. It should go into palce very easy.

3. Take the pc of wood out that was holding the sq guides in the top of the tower..

4 Take a long driver and put it into the reverse shift fork. It will be forward the front of the tractor, It is the one that has a cover that will go in the shift slot with pressure. use the leverage of the long srew diver by moving it toward the front of your tractor. This will move ithe reverse fork back and will be lined up with the other forks. Now the transmission is in neutral. When you look down into the gear shift hole you will see a square slot.

5.Now it will be easy to put the gear shift into the sguare sjot that is below the tower.

I hope this helps,

DP

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JMS/MN

12-27-2005 11:43:52




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 Re: WD Shifter Problems in reply to GLENN BAHR, 12-26-2005 11:08:17  
It is difficult to get the shift tower in place when everything is in neutral. I put the transmission and tower in reverse, and it is easier to slide the reverse fork into position on the shift collar. Goes around the gears easier for me- and the fork goes into the slot instead of bypassing it- which would keep the tranny from being able to be shifted into reverse.



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Stu (ON)

12-26-2005 12:54:24




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 Re: WD Shifter Problems in reply to GLENN BAHR, 12-26-2005 11:08:17  
Glenn, sounds like you have done the right things; but just to confirm. With the shifter tower off, locking the foot clutch forward with the lever, were you able to put all gears into the neutral position, and confirm this by turning the input shaft by hand, with no output to the differential?
This would be your starting position if you have reassembled the shifter lugs on the rails with all three lugs lined up in the neutral position. As you guide the shifter forks back into position, the long fork for reverse is the first one that you would target for the collar on that reverse gear, as previously noted.
With the shifter stick removed, are you able to reach down with a prybar and shift each of the three lugs on the rails? If so, then you just did not get the button on the shifter stick, or the lug machined to quite the right profile.
If the shift tower is currently in place, with the ignition or plug wires off, are you able to turn the engine slowly by crank, with the hand clutch engaged and transmission in neutral, and confirm that gears are not locked?
Just a couple of thoughts based on my recent experience with Dad's WD.

stu

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bw in mo

12-26-2005 12:28:09




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 Re: WD Shifter Problems in reply to GLENN BAHR, 12-26-2005 11:08:17  
Are you sure that every thing is lined up , sounds like reverse is not in the correct spot may not be . the fork may not be in the slot on the gear.



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wdtom

12-26-2005 12:03:46




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 Re: WD Shifter Problems in reply to GLENN BAHR, 12-26-2005 11:08:17  
Do you have ALL the springs and plungers in the detent/lockout system? These keep you from going into two gears at the same time.



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