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C loose steering linkage question

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Ken Cepek

12-25-2005 19:12:35




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The long solid rod that connects the top & bottom steering arms apears to be loose at the connections. Are there some options for making a repair in these two areas? This is on a '42 C tractor. They apear to be a ball & socket joint, with a tapered bolt fitting thru the rod with a nut & cotter key. I checked the archives with no help.
Thanks for your help!
Ken Cepek




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Texas Denny

12-27-2005 06:48:09




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 Re: C loose steering linkage question in reply to Ken Cepek, 12-25-2005 19:12:35  
Ken, I just finshed this on my C. Those ball joints have a steel ball but the seat is some kind of fiber stuff. I cut both ends off. I drilled a hole in each end of the rod and used a boreing bar on my lathe to match the OD of two Ford tie rod ends (if you get the right drill bit, you won't need a boring bar and a lathe). I matched the overall length and position and then welded them in place. The tie rod taper was the same shape but slightly smaller diameter. I cut a 0.005 shim, wrapped it around the taper and put it together. The new tie rod ends have zero slop and now have grease fittings which means they will last forever.

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RandyN

12-26-2005 07:59:08




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 Re: C loose steering linkage question in reply to Ken Cepek, 12-25-2005 19:12:35  
Hi Ken,

Mine aren't very bad, but I'd like to make them better. I don't have any immediately useful answers for you, either. I've always wondered if a drag link for the Ford N-series would fit there? It seems like one end of those rods are left-hand threads and one end was right hand threads, and I'm not sure you can get a straight ball-joint end for BOTH ends??? I have not investigated it deeply. I'll hope to hear some other ideas.

RandyN
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norm in WI

12-27-2005 17:43:24




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 Re: C loose steering linkage question in reply to RandyN, 12-26-2005 07:59:08  
I encountered the same problem. I think there was originally a rubber bushing between the ball and socket. It wears away leaving a sloppy joint. I drilled a 1/4 inch hole in the back side of the joint and injected 3M Window-weld super fast polyurethane caulk/adhesive(the stuff they caulk windshields with) until it squeezed out around the ball. I let it cure for 3 or 4 days, trimmed the excess and plugged the hole with JB Weld. I know it sounds a bit strange, but it has held up for several years. Good Luck

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Ken Cepek

12-28-2005 18:40:36




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 Re: C loose steering linkage question in reply to norm in WI, 12-27-2005 17:43:24  
Thanks Norm, sounds like an interesting repair. Evidently that 3M cauk isn't sticky? Where did you buy it?
Where abouts in Wisconsin are you located? I am in Elmwood, Wi., between Menomonie, Durand & Ellsworth. Thanks for the help!
Ken Cepek



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norm in WI

12-29-2005 14:35:35




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 Re: C loose steering linkage question in reply to Ken Cepek, 12-28-2005 18:40:36  
Ken I got it at CarQuest, but I think other auto parts places have it. It cures sort of like hard rubber. I'm not sure if it broke loose from the ball or if it just flexes enough allow the joint to work. We live by Elroy(between Hustler and Wonewoc).
Norm



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