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AC WD45 Shifter Problems.

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Rick Fanning

12-20-2005 06:32:01




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I have a WD45 that I purchased recently. I love the tractor, but shortly after I started using it the shifter became stuck in high gear and would not come out. I removed the shifter and took it to the shop. When I put in back it on, it seemd to work ok, but as soon as I started to drive it, it got stuck in high gear again. The "ball" on the shifter rod that should operate the arms was completely loose from them when I removed the shifter. It was the same way coming back from the shop, so I wound up removing the snap ring and putting it back in that way, but it doesn't seem to be in there right. Shouldn't I be able to operate the lever and see the "arms" move according to which gear I'm going to?

Does anyone know where I might get info on the shifter or who might be able to overhaul it. There is nothing in the shop manual about the shifter or how it operates. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Rick in Oakdale, Tn

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Punchie

12-20-2005 14:41:22




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 Re: AC WD45 Shifter Problems. in reply to Rick Fanning, 12-20-2005 06:32:01  
HI Rick

I normaly just weld an 1/8 to the bottom and build up the sides as to stop it from jumping out of the forks. "" The "ball" on the shifter rod that should operate the arms was completely loose from them when I removed the shifter. "" Not clear as to the ball that would be loose on the shifter? shifter has a knob (handle) next would be the neck or shaft. The part that fixes into the top of trans maybe you would call the ball should be part of the hole shifter. Than you would have the part that wears , part that fixes into the shifting forks . If I remember the size is about 1/2-5/8 By 9/16-3/4 but it has a traper shape about 3/4 long from top to bottom.

Have A Good One !!
Teddy

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Rick Fanning

12-21-2005 04:53:50




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 Re: AC WD45 Shifter Problems. in reply to Punchie, 12-20-2005 14:41:22  
Teddy,

Sorry for the bad description on some of this. I was in a bit of a hurry when I typed the message up. The "ball" is indeed the part that fixes into the shifter forks.. hardly a ball shape.

This sounds like pretty good advice. The shop that I took it to said that one of the detent balls was missing and that was what made it jump out of the forks, but it seems to make a lot more sense that the problem was that the end of the shifter rod had just worn down far enough to allow it to jump out. I guess I'll just a little welded onto it and see if that doesn't correct the problem.

Thanks for your help and have a good Christmas.

Rick

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Stu (ON)

12-21-2005 16:07:33




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 Re: AC WD45 Shifter Problems. in reply to Rick Fanning, 12-21-2005 04:53:50  
Rick, I am better able now to picture what you are asking. We recently had the shift tower off of Dad's WD, and I think that there are similarities.

With the shift tower off of the tranny, I could not move any of the three lugs on the shift rails. The detent balls have too much leverage.
When we put the tower back on the tranny, it was possible to reach down with a prybar and move any of the three lugs. When all three of the lug openings are lined up, the tranny is in neutral, if the forks are all engaged in the proper gears.

When the shifter could still not pull the shift lug out of fourth gear, it was time to build the button up on the end of the shiftstick with braze, and grind it to shape.

If you have too much vertical slop in the shiftstick, it is possible to add a very thin washer made of shimstock between the ball and the retainer to keep the stick forced down into the shifter lugs on the rails.

HTH,
stu

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