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Unstyled WC wide front pedestal???

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RevMac

12-11-2005 06:17:55




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I have an original wide front end for an unstyled WC, and I need to know if there are any other pedestals that will work to install it on the WC, or does it have to be just a WC wfe pedestal?
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JMS/MN

12-11-2005 17:48:56




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 Re: Unstyled WC wide front pedestal??? in reply to RevMac, 12-11-2005 06:17:55  
They are rare. 50 years ago our neighbor had one on an unstyled WC, along with an aftermarket hand clutch addition- used it with the Roto-Baler. You can put a WD/WD45 wide front on a WC. Bolts righ in.



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bigr

12-11-2005 11:55:46




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 Re: Unstyled WC wide front pedestal??? in reply to RevMac, 12-11-2005 06:17:55  
I have '41 WC with a converted Wagner loader on it. I'd like to convert to a wide front. Eldon's picture looks awful spindly even without a loader. Almost looks like a "B" front end.



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Zonie

12-11-2005 15:54:33




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 Re: Unstyled WC wide front pedestal??? in reply to bigr, 12-11-2005 11:55:46  
That picture of Eldon's is indeed the factory optional wide front for the WC. They are quite rare and expensive if you can find one.
Eldon, put on your long underware and go check it out! LOL
I'm basking in mid 60's weather down here. I do need to put on a light coat in the evenings tho!



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J.C. IN AZ.

12-11-2005 11:49:35




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 Re: Unstyled WC wide front pedestal??? in reply to RevMac, 12-11-2005 06:17:55  
Eldon: Is that a OEM for a WC? I have never seen one. That proves that some one was MFG. it for a WC.I have seen WF's but never a WC with a Wide Front until your Picture.



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Eldon (WA)

12-11-2005 12:07:08




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 Re: Unstyled WC wide front pedestal??? in reply to J.C. IN AZ., 12-11-2005 11:49:35  
Yes it is original equipment.



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acmfmh

12-11-2005 11:04:11




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 Re: Unstyled WC wide front pedestal??? in reply to RevMac, 12-11-2005 06:17:55  
I heard from a guy a few years back that a front end from the single front wheel WC is the same as the wide front WC. He said that a wide front would bolt right up on in place of the single wheel front. I have not tried it, so don't know positively.



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JMS/MN

12-11-2005 17:46:01




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 Re: Unstyled WC wide front pedestal??? in reply to acmfmh, 12-11-2005 11:04:11  
That does not apply to the WC, but can apply to the WD45.



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J.C. IN AZ.

12-11-2005 08:46:57




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 Re: Unstyled WC wide front pedestal??? in reply to RevMac, 12-11-2005 06:17:55  
I Farmed for a long time with AC Tractors and Equipment and spent many hours touring Dealers Yards looking for Equip., This in Northern ILL. in the 60's & 70's and I never ever saw a WC,"styled or unstyled" with a Wide Front except one and it was rigged with a Solid Beam Axle from an old Chevy Truck.You sure this is not for a WD/WD45?



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Eldon (WA )

12-11-2005 10:01:32




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 Re: Unstyled WC wide front pedestal??? in reply to J.C. IN AZ., 12-11-2005 08:46:57  
Here's a pic



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Eldon (WA)

12-11-2005 09:54:23




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 Re: Unstyled WC wide front pedestal??? in reply to J.C. IN AZ., 12-11-2005 08:46:57  
There are a few out there, but they are hard to find. I found one in a salvage yard in Medicine Hat, AB a couple of years ago. They were more of a wheatland style which made no sense since the WF was available, probably why few were made. Most WC's were used for row crops (especially in the midwest) and with a low slung wide front there is now way you could cultivate with one. I'm not sure if the pedestal is the same as the WF or not....would go take a look if it wasn't so #@&%$ cold out!

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JMS/MN

12-12-2005 16:43:13




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 Re: Unstyled WC wide front pedestal??? in reply to Eldon (WA) , 12-11-2005 09:54:23  
I looked at my 1949 Model WF today and noticed that the front casting was curved (WC is flat in front). WF has the cranking shaft coming through the front with no recess, no steering shaft bearing recess. Also, the WF has vertical holes for the bolts that hold the radiator, to go through. WC radiator bolts are rearward of the front casting. Lower part of the casting is similar, but I don't think the two are identical. Wishbone looks a bit different as well.

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Dave NE IA

12-11-2005 20:08:17




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 Re: Unstyled WC wide front pedestal??? in reply to Eldon (WA) , 12-11-2005 09:54:23  
A friend has a KNOWN original wide front WC. Dave NE IA



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