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Need help on a 1942 Allis B

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Tom Feldpausch

12-06-2005 17:57:51




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We have a 1942 Allis B we are trying to bring back to some form of originality. I have advertised for fenders and a rear hub and rim. Three questions come up from sellers:

1. High or low fenders?
2. Rims with loops or humps?
3. A cast hub with 2 cutouts or 4?

Can someone please offer some guidance on what a 1942 Allis would have originally had? Are the "loops" people are referring to the spinout bars on the width-adjustable later rims? Our B has foot brakes and electric start.

Thanks!

Tom

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steve(ill)

12-08-2005 18:30:41




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 Re: Need help on a 1942 Allis B in reply to Tom Feldpausch, 12-06-2005 17:57:51  
Rod is 100% right. -- the loop rims are International Harvester design. you dont need the cam locks on the B if you use the IH rims. just put bolts thru the loops and into you hub holes. it works, but not my idea of good.



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Rod (NH)

12-06-2005 18:33:49




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 Re: Need help on a 1942 Allis B in reply to Tom Feldpausch, 12-06-2005 17:57:51  
Hi Tom,

1. I don't know about "high and low" fenders. As far as I know there were only two different fenders used on the B and I wouldn't refer to either as "high or low". There is the standard style fender that you commonly see and there is the wide fender that was used if the tractor was originally supplied with steel wheels. The wide fenders are nothing more than standard fenders that have extensions spot welded to them that at least partially cover the top of the rear wheels.

2. I think that the humps were the standard for the rims for standard rear tire sizes. That's what my '42B has. You probably want the humps if you have the attaching clamps, two of which are adjusted with cam bolts. I don't know what the loops are unless they are an aftermarket rim that attaches directly to the hub with standard bolts and no adjustment. They are not spinout bars. As far as I know they are just tabs with holes in them for attaching bolts.

3. There were two different hubs used. One is a heavier casting with four v-shaped cutouts on the periphery. Those are the hubs that were used with the steel wheels. The steel wheels were attached with tabs that had holes in them. The four cutouts were needed in order to enable setting the wheel position on the inside of the hub. There are four different rear wheel track widths possible on the standard B. Two outside the hub and two inside. The lighter hub castings only had two of the cutouts and were used with the standard rims and tires.

If you are only looking for one side, you probably should try to match the side you already have. If you wish to see some photos of the wide fenders or the hubs with four notches, I can post some pictures of my '42B. If you have no fenders at all, see if you have the tall air cleaner intake stack. The tall stack sticks up above the hood about a foot. That tall stack was also unique to the B on steel. If you have that air cleaner and it is original to that tractor, you want the wide fenders and the hubs with four notches to be precisely original. Mine was originally on steel and Dad converted over to rubber not long after he got the tractor.

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Tom Feldpausch

12-06-2005 19:02:30




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 Re: Need help on a 1942 Allis B in reply to Rod (NH), 12-06-2005 18:33:49  
Wow, Rod, thank you very much!

Your comments are very helpful. We do not have the tall intake stack that you described. If you had pictures you could post or email us, that'd be great. If you had any detail shots of the rear rims and fenders, that'd be a plus. We really appreciate your help.



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Rod (NH)

12-06-2005 20:30:57




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 Re: Need help on a 1942 Allis B in reply to Tom Feldpausch, 12-06-2005 19:02:30  
Here they are: Click on the thumbnails to open up a 640x480 picture. I have seen rims with only four individual humps rather than the continuous hump shown below on mine.


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