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John T

11-18-2005 06:36:56




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Over on another board (sorry Kim) a poster commented on a new Country Music Video which showed a combine in a field, to which another poster asked, what was a combine doing in a field of green corn lol. It caused me to rant n rave a lil and I couldnt resist posting it here also.

I always get a kick out of phonys and the Hollwood or Yuppie (including many new age so called "Country" performers) crowds who want to pretend to be country folk at various occassions.

For example, one can easily spot the Realtors or Politicians at our local county fair, they are the ones that show up wearing "brand new" denims or have a piece of straw in their mouth. You ever see those pickup truck commercials where someone is ALWAYS throwing a few bales of hay or straw into the back lol. Or the Yuppie who drives into the local Co Op in his brand new Diesel Dually $50, 000 truck to get a bale of straw for his kids dog house and he has towells or blankets in the bed so he dont scratch his shiny new truck. Rememebr when regular folk or middle class or low income persons went on Trail Rides?? When you go to the local State Park horse camp nowadays, they wont let you in the gate UNLESS you have a Diesel Dually all wheel drive truck and about a $30,000 aluminum horse trailer. If a local young redneck showed up in a rusty old Ford and a 2 horse bumper hitch trailer the rich snobs would insist he be thrown out lol. Remember when we as kids got a cane pole, dug our own worms and went fishing?? Nowadays its the Diesel Dually truck pulling a $30,000 Ranger Bass Boat and a tackle box packed with expensive lures ya gotta have to fish.

Oh well, thats progress I reckon, I just never had to pay for those things to have fun or feel good about myself or impress the neighbors I guess. HOWEVER its good for the economy cuz if people were like me the Country would surely go broke.

Ol John T (Old fashioned conservative fuddy duddy)

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tim[in]

11-24-2005 15:27:33




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to John T, 11-18-2005 06:36:56  
yeh i am also a wannabee. i was raised on a 40 acre farm and wanted to farm. i started out working for local farmers .i farmed on the side and tried to get big in an area with limited land. plus wearing myself out physically and mentally while working fulltime for a big time farmer.after my grandmother died who owned the farm we lived on , we moved to the city for the last 10 years till now. i have bought a 30 acre farm and am in the process of slowly moving to it.an am more interested in subsitance farming than pleasing the big magazines and their advertisers.i feel that is what has been our trouble all along.we keep jumping thru hoops to please people who dont really count. a school chum has finally bought his first home and refuses to have me over till;" the place looks like something out of better homes and gardens." his quote. that is what is wrong with this country. too many people pursueing some "artificial standard" that has no real meaning in life.i'm happy with 2 out of 3 sisters still alive, both parents still alive,our health such as it is.and those of us who can hold a job and need to are.i'm thankfull i can still help out my family.i 've got no complaints. i know a lot of "big time ,full time farmers" who got started by working in town.and they also farm the govt. a wannabee to me is someone who loves raing plants or animals of some nature but doesnt do anything about it. if you are trying, you are! a lot of full time amish farmers are not considered "real famers by some inso that really dont mean much! lol the mags and govt. as few as our numbers are, we need all the farmers ,real or imagined we can.

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IdaRed

11-24-2005 06:05:10




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to John T, 11-18-2005 06:36:56  
Maybe some of the so called "yuppie-guppies do have a bit of farming blood in them from way back and every now and then it surfaces, which is a good thing.Maybe they don"t but wish they did so they go around acting the part, so they think.I know I live in town now about 3.5 miles from our old home place where my eldest brother still lives. I pay him a visit and take a walk around, have a look at the old barn and remember some of the good old times, which they say are happening right now.I have not had a look lately but there is a place high up on the inside of the hip-roof of the old barn where all the original barnbuilders painted their names on the last sheet of roof tin when my Dad and Grandpa enlarged the old barn many years ago.Remembering the good times, that is what we are all doing.Red...Ontario

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parrothead

11-21-2005 10:07:57




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to John T, 11-18-2005 06:36:56  
Amen, John. Wait a minute -- am I agreeing with a lawyer?!!!



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Che

11-21-2005 07:00:25




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to John T, 11-18-2005 06:36:56  
Hey, I'm that yuppy putz you guys all love! I sold my city living for the country. Had it all - lived and worked in Chicago, BA in History, MBA, worked for Citibank, nice house, beautiful wife, three great sons, and a big old empty spot in my heart when the neighbors kid would come down our street in his little foreign rocket car with the stereo thumping so loud it hurt my head (not to mention the lyrics of the song that caused me to cover my son's ears). Parking lot at the local school looked like a Lexus dealership as the kids fought over who had the nicest car.

Three years ago we left the big city, bought nine acres in central IL, and went to work for a smaller company. I grew up spending summers on my grandparents farm in SD and to this day look at those as the fondest memories of my childhood. No slight to you fellas with daughters, but with boys they need to grow up in the country. It just seems right.

By the way, I have a 1979 Chevy truck with a snowplow. That's what I use to haul stuff. Rusty and nasty as all get-out and I love it. Got a couple of horses, a barn, a pasture, and a 1950 WD that is just like my grandpa had. I went deer hunting before church yesterday and left my muzzleloader and 4-wheeler parked in the front yard while we were gone to church. It was right there when we got back. That's what it's all about. My neighbors are nice and suffer my endless questions about how to fix this or plant that or when I ask them what exactly they're doing in the field with that certain piece of equipment. I love it and, more importantly, my family loves it.

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farmerwannabe

11-19-2005 05:58:58




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to John T, 11-18-2005 06:36:56  
Well guys, you can see by my name (sort of a joke) my stance on this one! I grew up in a very rural area (Bad Axe, Michigan) but I happened to live in town. I lived to help out on friends farms with the hay and such. I"m busting my hump finishing college so I can get a little hobby farm and be able to have a few animals and do some haying of my own. In fact there"s a little 40 acre parcet with a functional barn with my name on it. I guess I"m a farmerwannabe to the core, BUT I understand that there"s no way I could support myself entirely with this endeavor, hence the FUN at college. The guys on this board are true tractor people, whether they all are farmers or not, and, as such, their help is much appreciated. Just my 1 cent...I"d give my 2 cents, but hey, I AM a college student(albeit an older one).

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Kent of SW MO

11-19-2005 04:41:06




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to John T, 11-18-2005 06:36:56  
The other side of the coin is the tree huggers who think NO ONE needs a one ton dually. I would like to see them put a goose neck ball in the back of their favorite Hybrid and tow a stock trailer with a dozen 1200 pound milk cows.

Kent



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Mark - IN.

11-19-2005 19:59:33




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to Kent of SW MO, 11-19-2005 04:41:06  
You know? I wonder about that a lot. I really do. The huggers got the ears of the politicians in DC, and they're pushing higher "CAFE" standards which equate to GEO Metros tring to haul equipment and stuff that they aint never going to haul.

One night a couple of weekends ago, I'm on the Indiana toll road from Illinois on my way home. Were a few cars in front of me, we're booking along, and one by one we all move over and pass a new ???? had a Chevy emblem on the back and remided me of that little Plymouth/Dodge/Chrysler thing that's been around about 5 or so years and looks like a mini panel van from the '50s. I can't think what it's called. Anyway, I was the last one to pass it going up the grade. Get to the top and on the way down it flies past and moves over in front of me, then on the way up the next grade slows down so I have to pass it again. When I did, it puts on it's bright lights. I get to the top, on my way down and again, the thing flies by me and moves over in front of me again. Now I'm wondering what's with this idiot. Same thing, loses momentum on the next grade, I pass, it puts on it's brights. I'm in no mood for games, had enough and now I'm hammering it and sending a thick cloud of diesel smoke into it's heater fresh air intake and watch it disappearing behind me. Every now and then I look in my rear view and watch everytime it starts up a grade, on come the brights. That's when I realized what was going on. WAS a hybrid, had to make a run downhill for the upcoming grade, everytime got into the grade, the gasoline engine would kick in, headlights would suddenly get brighter, not high beams at all. Would like to see it try to pull anything, a garden tractor on a trailer, anything. But, it's our future, I guess.

Mark

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E.T.K.

11-18-2005 19:10:03




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to John T, 11-18-2005 06:36:56  
I got 3 works for you- a real cowboy on this site

Allan in NE

I am so very annoyed by his idiot postings and I would love to ring his neck somedays. Allan, if you see this, just shut up once in awhile. I am sick of your games and mill of the run Hydro IH's. Thats the end of my vent.



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Ty from wy

11-19-2005 08:51:23




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to E.T.K. , 11-18-2005 19:10:03  
The last time i checked E.T.K. no one was making us read these here posts so i guess if he annoys you so bad dont read his post plain and simple!



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bihl

11-18-2005 19:03:57




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to John T, 11-18-2005 06:36:56  
there isnt is real farmer in the lot, to include you guys



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BCnT

11-19-2005 10:13:51




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to bihl, 11-18-2005 19:03:57  
nope...i aint a real farmer despite having pasture in 3 seperate counties to move my cattle to when grass runs short...reason i say i'm not real is i OWN the land...the equiptment...and the cattle...i dont OWE the BANK or anybody else NUTHIN and if i have a bad year nobody ''heps'' me out with low interest loans.



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mace56

11-18-2005 17:31:55




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to John T, 11-18-2005 06:36:56  
You would like Kenny C video "She Thinks My Tractor's SeXYYYYyyyyy yyyy"

Also Loretta Lynn movie where she rides home from the ridge on the fender of an old clutch drive D6.

All in fun



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BobMo

11-18-2005 14:42:09




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to John T, 11-18-2005 06:36:56  
Ahh John T, there you go bust'in bubbles again. They call what we make a live'in with "toys". Seems childish or perhaps its based on their limited vocabulary in regard to agricultural equipment.



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let's be fair

11-18-2005 13:13:25




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to John T, 11-18-2005 06:36:56  
Well, as a non-farmer who enjoys tractoring, I feel constrained to point out that no one in his right mind is a farmer wannabe. Farming is Las Vegas with no free drinks and I readily admit it takes a better and bolder man than I to make a living that way. No need to get aggravated at those who want to enjoy the atmosphere, though I have to admit chuckling at those who drive dually pickups just for looks. Bad gas mileage and you wear out six tires instead of four.

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NorthWest power shovel

11-18-2005 13:02:54




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to John T, 11-18-2005 06:36:56  
Just wondering how you guys feel about a suburbanite who is raised on a half acre but would like to have a farm on day. I am that suburbanite and belive in perserving the ag community and would like to have a grain farm some day, I guess I'm wondering do you accept (sp)those folks into the ag community. I already have rusty old equipment and to some in the neghborhood it's a real eye sour but ohwell.

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Butch(OH)

11-18-2005 13:27:02




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to NorthWest power shovel, 11-18-2005 13:02:54  
Ya got it all wrong shovel man. Country isn"t where you come from its how you act. If you got a side yard full of junk your doen great. Of course those who come from town got a row to hoe with country raised people, not because we are the closed minded hicks that the yuppies think we are but because of the million or so that proceeded you in moving out of town have set precedent. I find yuppies to be darned good entertainment. Just like the yuppies like to laugh at us hicks. Now why is one OK and one not? The answer is political correctness my friend, another thing I am proud not to be.

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NEsota

11-19-2005 09:57:59




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to Butch(OH), 11-18-2005 13:27:02  
Hey you guys, I grew up on a farm in S.E. Nebraska that my great-grandfather homesteaded in 1867, and I now own the place but have lived in Minneapolis since 1968. I know that this is not a very good start as far as having a profile appropriate for this forum but I would like to be as good as I can be. So please furnish me with suggestions as to what I should own, owe, drink, chew, smoke, chew, eat, talk like, drive, believe in, shoot, catch, use for bate, learn, listen to, repair, smell like, look like, weigh, how old should I be and what prejudices would be best for me to have so that I may fit in a little better. If you don't tell me I'll take my ball and go home.

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JMS/MN

11-20-2005 20:51:10




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to NEsota, 11-19-2005 09:57:59  
Rats! Since you had the NE moniker, I always thought you were someone who lived around Doloot!



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Mark - IN.

11-19-2005 19:22:19




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to NEsota, 11-19-2005 09:57:59  
A couple of decades ago, we were out as a family, all except Dad, whom died when I was 10 in '70. Life was tough without Dad, lost that farm, literally. Mom's a proper lady, doesn't cuss, goes to church pretty much every Sunday, and you get the idea. She does smoke though, Wistons at that. So, there we are, my brother, my three sisters, Mom, some friends, and me, in a tavern laughing, joking, and drinking. Mom don't go to taverns and she don't drink, but that night she wasn't feeling any pain. We got her crocked. I don't remember the conversation, but was one very similar to this topic, I guess. Out of the blue, Mom says "If they don't put the roof over your head, the money in your pocket, or the food in your mouth, feed the mother fxxxers fish". Again, it came completely out of the blue, and all of our jaws dropped, along with our beers. We've long since cleaned up our language around Mom, so she don't learn any more of our bad habits. I've worked and stayed in Illinois during the week now for about 20 years, own a small farm in Indiana which I work on weekends, just about every weekend. It never stops. I get older, tireder, and sorer all the time, and for as long as I can, it will never stop.

So you want advice on what kind of equipment you should own? My suggestion is the kind that you can afford, have to make, or have to modify to fit your needs. Brand new, or someone's handed down rat, if you're satisfied with the job that it gets done for you and yours, you're way ahead of the game, so God love ya and good luck. Oh ya, one last bit of advice - watch your mouth around Mom. She don't need to learn any of your bad habits. Ha Ha Ha Ha. ...out of the blue she did.

Mark

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Gatz

11-18-2005 10:48:14




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to John T, 11-18-2005 06:36:56  
Rec'd this video a while back and took a while to find it on the web, but thought you all might enjoy a "cityboys" newscast...

copy & paste link or click site below.

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Gatz



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Will- Tx.-Mn.

11-18-2005 10:47:37




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to John T, 11-18-2005 06:36:56  
Man on the moon? are ya sure?

i remember that night, i watched it on tv. the moon thang, i believed it then, now i don't,and havn't for sometime

~Will



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Zonie

11-18-2005 10:45:34




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to John T, 11-18-2005 06:36:56  
I admit to being a "Wanna be", but at least I grew up part time on a dairy farm. I just bought a "New" 1996 Dodge Diesel 4X4 but no Aluminium horse trailer. I own and use rusty old Allis Chalmers tractors with some home made 3 point equipment and a couple of factory implements. I enjoy creating my own implements from scratch. some of them didn't work the way I wanted them to but most do what I want. The fanciest boat I ever owned was a inflateable raft.
I take my tractors to shows and pulls in thier work clothes dirt, rust and all. If someone doesn't like it that's thier problem. At least everything I have belongs to me not the bank.
Now them fellers with the Green tractors, they got to have them all painted up fancy and haul them with thier $50,000 moviestar truck and a $10,000 goosneck traier followed by thier wifes driving the $200,000 motorhome. If I go to a show that's out of town I sleep in the back of my truck with a Shell on it.
I like it that way!

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mace56

11-18-2005 16:06:51




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to Zonie, 11-18-2005 10:45:34  
I have to agree with Zonie. Not many true full time farmers left. I certain ain't one. Very few around here that can even make it unless the wife works or they have a day job in town to get a little health insurance. The poor young guys that are trying to scratch out a wage around here would not have time to read this website very often and sure would have a tough time maintaining a hobby on the side.
Hats off to em, but us wannabee's well we 'just wanna have fun' and remember a good time that has passed.

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BCnT

11-18-2005 09:00:11




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to John T, 11-18-2005 06:36:56  
boy o boy can i relate to that...i cant seem to get away from yups and wannabees anywhere these days...cut my teeth on 400 acres of watermelons and various truck farm crops n hogs and then in my spare time i helped out at my uncles dairy milkin cows and cleaning the equiptment...my dark side loved motorsickles and i drug home every 2 wheeled contraption i could dig out of somebody's trash...i left the farm to go seek infame and fortune but never was quite cut out for city life...neighbors useta call cops on me fer shootin varmits in town...go figger...anyhow after the old homestead got surrounded by con-damn-minimums we moved the cattle to a new piece of ground and started from scratch...i helped on weekends and time off...when i finally said the money wasnt worth it i moved back to the woods where i belong...dont let tha beard and chopped harley in barn fool ya...i was knee deep in cow**it before most of ya were born and buildin custom bikes before anybody knew what a fonzie wuz ;)

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Butch(OH)

11-18-2005 07:24:39




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to John T, 11-18-2005 06:36:56  
Wrong board or not sounds like we would get along well John T. Butch
Old fashioned, redneck, hillbilly, farmer, hick, thick headed, biased, conservative, christian, non progressive and non polictaly correct and REAL PROUD OF IT.



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Texas Denny

11-18-2005 06:54:25




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to John T, 11-18-2005 06:36:56  
We must have grown up in the same place and time. Good memories. What will today's kids remember - the time their cash card failed to give them money - or the time the artist had a hang nail and had to cancel the concert ruining the whole weekend. I think we were the fortunate ones because we experienced so much more than our youngsters ever will. I think my grandparents were even luckier because they saw the country before the automobile and were here into the 70's to see a man on the moon. What a fantastic journey they had.

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D17JIM

11-18-2005 07:50:11




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to Texas Denny, 11-18-2005 06:54:25  
WELL JOHN YOU NEVER CHANGE AND I'M REAL THANKFUL FOR THAT. WE ARE A LOT ALIKE IN MANY WAYS. FOUND THAT OUT WHEN WE KNEW EACH OTHER THROUGH ED. SO KEEP ENJOYING THE SIMPLE THINGS AND FEELING SORRY FOR THOSE WHO CAN'T. I STILL TAKE MY GRANDSON FISHING AFTER WE DIG WORMS BUT IT IS WITH A CHEAP ROD AND REEL IN MY 1994 CHEVY P-U WITH 208,000 MILES ON IT. I TOOK MY SON THE SAME WAY AND HE STILL ENJOYS THOSE THINGS AS I DID. LIFE IS GOOD IF WE MAKE IT THAT WAY.

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jd9295

11-19-2005 06:23:41




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to D17JIM, 11-18-2005 07:50:11  
Its a shame that very very few kids will get to experience the (farm) be it small or big. I grew up working for my grandpa on th farm and wouldnt trade it for anything. I now have it and my boys are growing up getting the chance to see what ive seen, I make sure of it. If they decide to move on when they are older thats their choice but i gave them the opportunity to know both sides. And they dont get to run to town when they want or get everything they want, they get to do things if their chores are done, and you know, there are people I work with that think Im terrible for that. But its the way my dad raised me and I dont think I turned out to bad. I can pull the injector pump, rebuild it and have the tractor running again thanks to the way i was raised.

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Texas Denny

11-19-2005 19:27:21




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to jd9295, 11-19-2005 06:23:41  
I grew up that way, too. And we never expected anything. Or needed to have entertainment. We made our fun with out spending $. Of course, we didn't have any to spend anyway.



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moseed

11-20-2005 03:52:46




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to Texas Denny, 11-19-2005 19:27:21  
Give people a break. Anyone truly connected to the land (commercial farm or ranch)should feel blessed and never entitled!!! I am the third generation of a large farm family. I am thrilled that folks keep the old iron and life style from becoming lost whether they are conventional farmers or not. If you farm or ranch and the excitment someone shows about farming or ranching twists your tail because they aren't entitled perhaps you have found yourself in the wrong proffession.

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Texas Denny

11-20-2005 06:48:47




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to moseed, 11-20-2005 03:52:46  
I sense anger. I don't understand the term "entitled" as I don't think that is the thread here. It was more that the culture has changed tremendously and we aren't sure if it is better. Or maybe, many are sure it isn't better.



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Rednight (IL)

11-20-2005 06:41:48




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to moseed, 11-20-2005 03:52:46  
Hey great discussion. I can relate to most of the country/city stuff. I was raised in the corn and bean fields of Illinois and my father worked in the oil patch. We lived just a little too far out of town to get to do all the things city kids did, ie sports, clubs, dances. Any given day would find my brother and I baling hay, picking up roots, disking, cutting corn out of beans. My favoriite was moving cattle from one pasture to the next. Old George would always get my brother and I to help "cause we had a knack with the cattle, moving calmly around them and "leading" them instead of "driving" them. Probably the least fun was "cutting" young pigs especially when they got in the 40lb range. I married a "city" girl that just never would grasp the art of country living. My yuppie brother (the CPA)and his family would leave their "$300,000 closed community on the golf course hocked up to their a$$ stretch your arms out and touch the neighbors house" and visit in the summertime. They were terribly afraid that we left our house all opened up and cars unlocked and especially fearful of all the dark shadows of the woods. And THAT pile of "junk" behind the barn! Plow, disk, planter, bush hog! I had taken my old Ford truck to some "good old boys" to get some work done and invited my 13 year old niece along for the ride. On the way back we stopped out in the country to marvel at the clear night, stars and big sky and her responce was that it was nice, but why aren"t the "street lights" on. I suppose the final straw was the time I hooked up the old Massey to the wagon for a good old time hayride. I later learned how inconsiderate I had been to put that family in a "dirty" trailer with all that yellow "grass" driving down those "dirt" roads next to those dark woods. And why couldn"t I have just loaded them all up in the van if I had wanted to show them the country. Well after 18 years the country life finally lost over the city life for my wife and kids. She moved back to the city and showed my kids how to be fearful of their neighbors and get all your groceries from the deli. Now when they visit they are bored stiff "cause there is "nothing to do" on my land and creek and woods. OK so I am ranting and just a hobby farmer with a couple of "old" tractors and some "junk" behind the barn.But for the most part I own what I have, fix what I break, build what I need. Is that just wrong and should I have moved to the city with the ex. I don"t think so!!!! Better get out to the deerstand, I feel a little venison coming my way..... .

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JMS/MN

11-20-2005 21:01:42




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to Rednight (IL), 11-20-2005 06:41:48  
Lotza good responses here- but I enjoyed yours - the most. Unfortunate that so many miss the point of what you see as a valuable experience. Glad that when our family provides a hayride for city friends..... .it is so appreciated. Two years ago, the family reunion on my wife's side was here at the farm- high point for most was to see the animals and a ride around the nearby lake, courtesy AC 1937 Model WC- cackling and spitting the whole time- and enjoyed the neighbor's waves, high fives, etc. as well.

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moseed

11-21-2005 04:59:08




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to JMS/MN, 11-20-2005 21:01:42  
Teaxas Denny alias "Cool Hand Luke", Read E.T K."s reply and see if your good senses sense any anger. I think I"ll Zen out for now.



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Texas Denny

11-21-2005 06:52:57




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to moseed, 11-21-2005 04:59:08  
Moseed, I read ETK's post. I couldn't figure out who he is talking about. Who is Alan? Yes, I sense anger like I did in your post. His anger puzzles me as well. Anger is not good for the body and mind. I suggest avoiding things that cause these destructive feelings. Or at least, avoid the destructive feeling.



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11-22-2005 05:26:02




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 Re: Farmer Wannabees in reply to Texas Denny, 11-21-2005 06:52:57  
Texas Denny, you are a wise soul. I will do my best! In the mean time I think I'll change my name to "Moon Beam".



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